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From: alibaba@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Alexander M. Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Macsbug 6.x
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Date: 26 May 89 09:46:02 GMT
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In article <31655@apple.Apple.COM> jordan@Apple.COM (Jordan Mattson) writes:
...
>	There is a basic misconception about MacsBug, ResEdit, and other
>software from Apple that they are Public Domain.  They are not.  They are
>software that is licensed to individuals to use.  And since they are licensed
>to individuals, we have to know who those individuals are.  Therefore, it
>has to be downloaded from an electronic service that can display the correct
>license agreement and make a record of your name and the software that you
>downloaded.  These are all requirements of the US Copyright office.  That
>is why you do not see Apple software posted to the net and why it is not
>kosher for you to give your friends a copy of MacsBug or ResEdit.
>
>Jordan Mattson                         UUCP:      jordan@apple.apple.com
>Apple Computer, Inc.                   CSNET:     jordan@apple.CSNET
>Development Tools Product Management   AppleLink: Mattson1 
>20525 Mariani Avenue, MS 27S
>Cupertino, CA 95014
>408-974-4601
>			"Joy is the serious business of heaven."
>					C.S. Lewis

At this point, I'd like to point out that ResEdit and MacsBug are
available from several user groups. Apple advertises this fact.
The user groups have to "license" them from Apple (similar methods
go for the system disks). Apple even charges yearly licensing fees
to the groups. Apparently, somebody inthe legal department thinks
that Apple is better protected is the licensing involved a monetary
transaction. This means that many of the poor non-profit user groups
have to scrape up like $50 a year for each Apple thing they distribute.

Even worse is that Apple wants the user groups to buy labels from
Apple to put on copies of the System disks.

Most importantly, Ellen Leanse (formerly "User Group Evangelist")
now heads up the "marketing" group that deals with user groups.

Just goes to show that Usenet isn't the only place that isn't getting
a beneficial treatment on this matter.
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