Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!xanth!ames!apple!chuq From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop Subject: Re: Typography--Was Re: ventura Message-ID: <31634@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 25 May 89 16:19:56 GMT References: <8905160047.AA12857@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> <32118@sri-unix.SRI.COM> Organization: Life is just a Fantasy novel played for keeps Lines: 39 >I'm sorry if I sound testy. It's just that I'm a publications >professional, an editor, and I'm awfully tired of engineers who >think they know as much as I do about publication design. >I don't try to design circuits or write programs; why do they think >they can design publications? I want to attest to what Valerie says. Ever since the day I sat down and said "I know, Toto! I'll publish a fanzine! No problem!" my life has been somewhat dominated by trying to figure out how to make it look good. A side-effect of this is that I now can't sit down with any publication, from a fellow fanzine to Time magazine without analyzing the publication (sort of like the writer's lament: you can no longer read for pleasure, because you're looking at everything as a writer). Being to a good degree self-taught in computers, and being completely self-taught in graphic design, I can say this: programming is a lot easier to pick up and be good at. Don't think you can just grab Pagemaker and slug something through. I did. Many others do -- and it shows. Not even that the design is bad, necessarily: just that the design is inappropriate for the technology they used. You don't use fountains on a laser printer, and you don't use a Varityper on a fanzine that's going to be photocopied. I've got four years (ack!) of OtherRealms that's sitting in a file that is a classic testament to how much work needs to go into the design aspects, and what happens when you don't know what you don't know. Typography is a set of skills in and of itself -- and just because someone has pagemaker doesn't mean they can handle it, any more than owning a C compiler let's you program a Mac. Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.] This is....The Voice....of USENET....in special English. 1300UTC on 11525.