Xref: utzoo misc.kids:9089 news.misc:3037 misc.misc:6257 talk.politics.misc:26699 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!oakhill!dover!waters From: waters@dover.sps.mot.com (Strawberry Jammer) Newsgroups: misc.kids,news.misc,alt.sex,misc.misc,talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: alt.sex to become illegal in New Jersey? Message-ID: <1320@dover.sps.mot.com> Date: 21 May 89 02:48:45 GMT References: <3246@looking.UUCP> <3302@tank.uchicago.edu> <1301@dover.sps.mot.com> <4765@tekigm2.MEN.TEK.COM> Reply-To: waters@dover.sps.mot.com (Strawberry Jammer) Organization: Home for Burned out Magazine Authors (32 and counting!) Lines: 73 In article <4765@tekigm2.MEN.TEK.COM> tcmaint@tekigm2.MEN.TEK.COM (Thomas A. Dowe) writes: >In article <1301@dover.sps.mot.com> waters@dover.UUCP (Strawberry Jammer) writes: >>In article <3302@tank.uchicago.edu> stel@tank.uchicago.edu (stelios valavanis) writes: >>>This censorship thing is really scary. I think everybody should be completely >>>against it. >>How about DOING sometrhing about it. A donation to the Bational Coalition >>Against Censorship for example: >>NCAC >>2 West 64th Street >>New York, NY 10023 >>212-724-1500 >>They are a non-profit foundation formed to deal with book burners of all >>types. Members/Advisors include a great many authors, Isaac Asimov, Judy >>Blume, Alice Childress, Shana Alexander and about 30 more of equal stature. >Bravo! Mike is right-on, here. I recommend "investment" in such organizat- >ions which protect our basic Constitutional rights. Your best contribution, >though, would be to assure yourself that such organizations also support ALL >those Constitutional rights, as I am sure the NCAC does, right? I suspect that they are as "focused" on the 1st Amendment as the NRA is on the 2nd. I don't see what the problem is with that. >Also, since the Principles expressed in the Constitution are still as valid >today, as they were then, that the Supreme Court's efforts be directed to >strict adherence to the intent expressed in those Principles. In that way, >mere opinion, of whatever color, _cannot_ infringe on that application to >_individual_ life under penalty of law (Sections 241, 242 U.S. Criminal Code.) I am really not sure what you are getting at here, but there are enough flagrantly Unconstitutional Laws being passed that perhaps a criminal penalty would be in order for those who pass such laws. AFTER a judical review of course. There is a lot of talk about this or that being "Unconstitutional" with little or no evidence and nothing in the way of Judicial rulings. The "right to bear arms" by individuals is one example, it seems that the decisions so far at least imply an organized militia under the control of a government body of some sort. Obviously the NRA and supporters dispute this, but have been unable to cite any clearcut decision by the Supreme Court to back it up (so far at least). >If you, as citizens, wrote letters to the Grand Jury in your areas, perhaps >these matters could be "tested" to a quick-and-speedy conclusion. Ultimately, >though, it really depends on the smallest voting incorporation, so VOTE! >(Right, Mike?) Well when I was called to serve on the Grand Jury it was the state/U.S. attourney who determined just what issues were investigated. The Grand Jury does have broad poweres of investigation of those issues though. As I recall though quite extreme precautions are taken not to let things like a letter writing campaign influence them since they are not supposed to test the popularity of anything, just "reasonable cause for prosecution". You DO get all the "dirt" on the "ruch and famous" in your area though, you just can't talk about it. Voting is really just the start - pressure groups (NRA, "Right to Life", "Ban it and Burn it" etc.) get the power they do because people are not involved. One of the few good outcomes of our Gov. Meecham debacle was that almost everyone go involved to some extent. As far as I know he was the first official to be impeached, recalled and to face criminal indictment. The impeachment nulified the recall and he got off on the criminal charges though. -- *Mike Waters AA4MW/7 waters@dover.sps.mot.com OR waters@cad.Berkley.EDU* Polymer physicists are into chains.