Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:6250 sci.physics:8131 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!bbn!bbn.com!aboulang From: aboulang@bbn.com (Albert Boulanger) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.physics Subject: Field Mills and all that Message-ID: <40240@bbn.COM> Date: 20 May 89 19:16:53 GMT Sender: news@bbn.COM Reply-To: aboulanger@bbn.com Lines: 62 Dannie Gregoire (dannie@coplex) writes: I am currently doing some research and study of lightning and have come upon the mention of a field mill (a device which measures the intesity of the electromagnetic pulse from lightning) The schematics I have found for one are non-standard as well as archaic. If any one has any schematics of such a device, please send them my way. I am also in search of a way to use a set of radio-directional finders to triangulate upon where lightning strikes are occuring. Any relevant info or comments on this project would be appreciated as well. Thanx-a-head-a-time! First of all, you should be aware that there is coverage of most of the US nowdays by a national network of lightning cross-loop recievers made by a company called LLP in Tuscon Ariz. You can get online data of lightning events across the US by talking to: Dick Orville SUNY Albany You can buy these recievers from LLP. Now a field-mill really detects the slow-varying electrostatic field changes of thunderstorms. The fair-weather field is something like 100V/meter. I trust you have some info of the details on the mechanical design. They are a rotating air-capacitor affair. The bottom of the capacitor is split up into quadrants and the top is two opposing conjoined quadrants (like a butterfly wing) that rotates. 1 | 2 -- -- 3 | 4 The signal is picked off of quad 1&4, 2&3 by an instrumentation amplifier (the top rotating vane is grounded). This rotating vane acts as a chopper so we get an ac signal out of this (thus best to use a DC motor). The front-end of the instrumentation amplifier should be FET op amps. (For the design of an instrumentation amp, pull out the schematics from your fav Brain-wave biofeedback device. There was one in Popular Electronics in the early-to-mid 70s.) Note that we dealing with VERY small currents so mounting the front-end on *clean* ceramic is wise. The tail end is an integrator. I belive there was a field mill design in the Amateur Scientist column in Sci Am many years ago. At any rate, I can send you some info my snail mail. One possible source for field mills is surplus from 'Nam. They were used to detect the electrostatic potential of helicopters in a feedback circuit with an electrostatic generator that was used to null-out the potential. One source that had them a while back was: Microwave Equipment Company 4121 N.W. 27th Street Miami Fl. 33142 305 871-2171 Potentially yours, Albert Boulanger BBN Systems & Tewchnologies Corp. aboulanger@bbn.com