Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: marsh@linus.UUCP (Ralph Marshall (617 271-7648)) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Request info on force ratios in European theater Message-ID: <6807@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 23 May 89 04:32:17 GMT References: <6710@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA Lines: 51 Approved: military@att.att.com From: marsh@linus.UUCP (Ralph Marshall (617 271-7648)) In article <6710@cbnews.ATT.COM> amdcad!cdr@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Carl Rigney) writes: > >Run out and buy James Dunnigan's _How to Make War: A comprehensive >guide to modern warfare_. Beancounting is of questionable usefulness; >it's not enought to just count tanks, you also have to determine their >quality WITH RESPECT TO their environment, doctrine, and opponent's >doctrine. William Morrow just published a completely revised edition >in 1988; ISBN is 0-688-07979-2 in softcover. It's the best overall >book on factors in modern warfare I know of, but I'd be delighted to >hear other people's choices. I have to disagree with you. I read Dunnigan's book, and I didn't think it was all that hot. He had a number of typos and printing errors that made me a little suspicious about the quality of the charts full of numbers. I liked some of his comments, especially the one which states something like "The abilities that make for a good combat commander usually make for a bad peacetime officer; hence, after a long period of peace most units will be commanded by people who are excellent politicians but terrible commanders." The basic problem with writing a book about contemporary force structures is the same one that plagues the Pentagon: we haven't sent 10's of divisions to Germany in a few weeks to stop a mobile army backed up by tactical nukes and gas, so we have NO IDEA what it will really be like. We obviously have to make some guess, since the only other choice is to plan to "improvise", which probably won't work this time around. What I think we need to see is more realistic training and testing units and equipment. Modern tanks are too expensive to practice blowing them up with the latest anti-tank weapon, so we simulate it instead. This is all well and good, but too much simulation and your results no longer match what will happen when the line of sight is much shorter/longer than on your proving ground, when the thing gets mud/dust/water in it, and when some grunt humping it around on his back drops it every once in a while. If we were willing to spend more money testing and perfecting systems under realistic situations they'd probably work more like we intended. Since w don't, it is very hard for either the military brass or an outside author like Dunnigan to make accurate predictions about what will happen in a large scale war. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Marshall (marsh@mbunix.mitre.org) Disclaimer: Often wrong but never in doubt... All of these opinions are mine, so don't gripe to my employer if you don't like them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------