Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!caen.engin.umich.edu!offutt From: offutt@CAEN.ENGIN.UMICH.EDU (daniel m offutt) Newsgroups: sci.nanotech Subject: Is active shield design intractable? Message-ID: <8906010521.AA05561@athos.rutgers.edu> Date: 31 May 89 17:27:00 GMT References: <8905310354.AA19565@athos.rutgers.edu> Sender: nanotech@aramis.rutgers.edu Organization: U of M Engineering, Ann Arbor, Mich. Lines: 31 Approved: nanotech@aramis.rutgers.edu I have seen no evidence that the task of developing effective active shields is tractable, even if almost everyone on the planet were a "good guy"/active shield researcher. To build something that destroys is easy. To build an active shield that protects a complex system such as the human body or a forest from damage by replicators seems orders of magnitude more difficult. In some cases, certainly impossible. The task of an active shield is not just to stop noxious replicators, it is to do so without disrupting the protected system. And to establish that a candidate active shield does not seriously disrupt its host in any way seems difficult or impossible due to the complexity of the host and the resulting large number of unpredictable side-effects of the resident candidate active shield. Moreover, as Mr. Papiewski pointed out in an earlier article, the great variety of potential gray goo makes the problem even more difficult, since the active shield must be proof against nanoreplicators it has never seen. Animal immune systems have been evolving for hundreds of millions of years. If immune systems and active shields are to be of comparable complexity, they are not going to be developed by only five or fifty billion people in a matter of decades, or even centuries. Dan Offutt offutt@caen.engin.umich.edu [The same arguments could be brought against the possibility of building gray goo in the first place. This is one reason to hope that the two might occur with some parity of capabilities... --JoSH]