Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcvax!kth!draken!tut!hydra!kreeta!grano From: grano@kreeta.cs.Helsinki.FI (Juhani Grano) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Turing Test and Subject Bias Message-ID: <1119@hydra.cs.Helsinki.FI> Date: 6 Jun 89 21:59:57 GMT References: <3018@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <1108@hydra.cs.Helsinki.FI> <952@maestro.htsa.aha.nl> Sender: news@cs.Helsinki.FI Reply-To: grano@cs.helsinki.fi Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland Lines: 30 In article <952@maestro.htsa.aha.nl> fransvo@htsa.UUCP (Frans van Otten) writes: :But it might be possible to describe a property which I might call :"absolute intelligence". This could be described by something like :this: : : 1. A set of rules, like "if big angry man coming towards me : then run away"; : 2. A machine to apply these rules to input data, resulting : in output data and/or actions. : :Of course, ai languages like prolog use this kind of data :representation, but they don't seem to be as successful as humans. The problem with these if .... then .... constructions is obviously that they fail to achieve the necessary adaptability that humans have. When something unexpected happens, a human *magically* knows the context or 'frame' which to adapt. This is of course related to experience and knowledge about reality, but humans also seem to have the ability to draw conclusions *very* heuristically...to err is human... It is not clear to me whether the AI people are trying to make an intelligent machine or a machine whose behaviour resembles that of human beings..:-) The goal seems to run away every time we try to grasp it...I think it only goes to show that trying to break 'intelligence' into discrete areas is not very fruitful. Intelligence is more than the sum of the features/abilities that are parts of it. ------------------------------ Kari Grano University of Helsinki, Finland email to: grano@cs.helsinki.fi Department of CS