Xref: utzoo comp.arch:10169 comp.misc:6286 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!purdue!gatech!prism!loligo!mccalpin From: mccalpin@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (John McCalpin) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.misc Subject: Re: front ends to crays... Summary: front ends are not dead Message-ID: <758@loligo.cc.fsu.edu> Date: 8 Jun 89 19:37:21 GMT References: <5674@hubcap.clemson.edu> <32216@apple.Apple.COM> Reply-To: mccalpin@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (John McCalpin) Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute Lines: 26 In article <> hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Marshall) writes: >What would make a good front end for a YMP, and why? In article <> malcolm@Apple.COM (Malcolm Slaney) replies: >Why do you need a front end machine? (This is comp.arch, after all.) >I think it is time to put the concept of a front end machine to bed. Some reasons for a front-end machine: (1) Cray MIPS are definitely not cheap, and it is difficult to convince users not to run inefficient or inappropriate codes on the back end. (2) Cray disks are definitely not cheap. A front-end with very good I/O performance and lots of slots for cheap 1 GB SMD disks can be very useful (provided it supports the Cray 100 MB/s high-speed channel). (3) Cray memory is neither cheap nor abundant. Any jobs which do not need to be on the Cray should not be on the Cray taking up memory from applications that need it. (4) A centralized front-end provides an appropriate spot for things like mailers, mailing lists, news, etc. This is slightly more difficult to do in a "workstation & supercomputer only" environment. -- John D. McCalpin - Dept of Oceanography - Florida State University mccalpin@masig1.ocean.fsu.edu mccalpin@nu.cs.fsu.edu mccalpin@fsu (BITNET or MFENET) SCRI::MCCALPIN (SPAN)