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From: bertrand@eiffel.UUCP (Bertrand Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Eiffel vs. C++
Message-ID: <159@eiffel.UUCP>
Date: 7 Jun 89 12:59:11 GMT
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Organization: Interactive Software Engineering, Santa Barbara CA
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                        La calunnia: e` un venticello,
                        Un auretta assai gentile
                        che insensibile, sottile
                        incomincia, incomincia susurrar.

(The great Calumny aria from the Barber of Seville)
    

    I have never had any personal business with Dr. Stroustrup.
Any personal hostility is his problem.

    I let readers judge who is insulting whom. For my part,
I have no time to waste on his personal attacks, not a single one
of which is true.

    In my previous message, I stated a fact: Eiffel has been
excluded from a projected OOPSLA panel on the design of object-oriented
languages. This is in the public record and now confirmed by
the party that caused the exclusion. Anyone can judge on the ethics
of the situation.

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Note: I am writing this just before leaving for a 3-week trip and I cannot
possibly answer the mail messages that I have received recently.
I will try to do so when I come back. I thank all the people who
wrote to me. A few of these messages disagreed on some points
of my technical note, although in my quick review I didn't find
anything that clearly invalidated something I wrote.

     Several people mentioned that I should have included Turing among
the ``commonly available languages'' supporting assertions. I guess
I was not aware that Turing was so commonly available in
universities.  In any case I am happy to correct the omission and
to admit that my Turing could benefit from some brushing up.
-- 

-- Bertrand Meyer
bertrand@eiffel.com