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From: s160057@castor.ucdavis.edu (What? Me worry?)
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Subject: Re: Domains vs. Routing (was Re: rewriting FROM: lines)
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Date: 11 Jun 89 09:42:35 GMT
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>-  Number of UUCP hosts was increasing, so the number of names
>   and the size of the data to keep track of them has gotten too big
>   for most hosts to handle.

This still is the case. I'm in favor of limiting the number of map entries
each organization / person is allowed, to say two or three. The maps files are
*not* meant for LAN information, regardless of what the readme file says. There
is limited namespace in UUCP's flat world..

>-  The ARPAnet (now the Internet) predates UUCP, is more official than UUCP,
>   ran into these problems (even worse than UUCP did) before UUCP did,
>   and fixed these problems independently of what UUCP did.
>   There are also more Internet hosts than UUCP hosts.  Now, it is standard.

Yet, in this domain-oriented world, the UUCP maps keep tabs on things I
consider as important as routing - responsibility, connectivity..

>Remember, fitting into Internet is current trend.  Next is ISO.
>At least with Internet, UUCP is pretty viable, but with ISO UUCP is just
>going to be plain silly if it works at all.

You should distinguish between Internet machines, connected with TCP/IP,
and machines using registered domains. Few if any .us machines exist on the
Internet (I cannot think of any). I think one of the major problems is an
inability of small, independent operators to connect to the Internet. 

Personally, I don't think ISO has a snowball's chance in the United States.
At the rate domains are being adopted, things can only get better. "Once 
an entrenched domainist, always an entrenched domainist.."

>I think the general concensus is "If you want to stay in the dark ages,
>you have that right."

However our machines will retain the right to bounce your mail..

UUCP in its current state is broke. It's up to all of us to fix it.


"I'm all lost in the supermarket.." - The Clash / s160057@castor.ucdavis.edu