Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!violet.berkeley.edu!gts From: gts@violet.berkeley.edu (Greg Small) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Re: PC/IP vs. Ungermann-Bass PC-NIU Message-ID: <25369@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 9 Jun 89 02:10:38 GMT Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: gts@violet.berkeley.edu (Greg Small) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 25 = Article 1631 of comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc: = From: ron@ron.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) = Choke. The PC-NIU is one of these smart Ethernet card. It's use is not too = widespread, and it is expensive. Hence, not too many people other than UB = have implemented anything for it. ....... = = Article 1633 of comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc: = From: latzko@pilot.njin.net (Alex ) = Actually, its worse than that. Of the only three things which I have ever = been aware of which ran on that card only one is still in production. This kind of loose talk irritates me rather more than a bit. If we had not been too technically backward to cope with the early intelligent Ethernet adapters, then the production volume would be much higher and the price much lower. The DOS memory impact of an intelligent adapter such as UB's PCNIU is MUCH lower than the dumb adapters. With UB's TCP-PC Release 16.0, the DOS resident interface is about 18k and provides simultaneous Telnet, Netbios, TCP/UDP/IP and raw Ethernet to the TCP/IP code on the board. This kind of full service interface makes the board valuable not cheap. Gregory T Small (415)642-5979 Personal Computer Networking & Communications gts@violet.Berkeley.EDU Workstation Support Services - Software Group ucbvax!jade!gts 267 Evans Hall SPGGTS@UCBCMSA.BITNET University of California, Berkeley, Ca 94720