Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!SATURN.ACC.COM!cam From: cam@SATURN.ACC.COM (Chris Markle acc_gnsc) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: SNA over Ethernet via NDIS in OS/2 EE environment Message-ID: <8905301958.AA27545@saturn.acc.com> Date: 30 May 89 19:58:39 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 32 Folks, (Apologies to those of you who had to read this twice; 1st shot went to "ibmnets" instead of the correct "ibm-nets".) A recent article in MIS Week describes an "agreement" between IBM and Ungermann-Bass (UB), 3Com, and Western Digital (WD) to have the three vendors comply with the NDIS (Network Driver Interface Specification) such that OS/2 EE Version 1.2 will support Ethernet adapters from those vendors. The article goes on to mention how the OS/2 EE version of NDIS allows SNA and NetBIOS to operate over an Ethernet LAN. I was curious as to what "allows SNA to operate over an Ethernet LAN" really means. Any thoughts? One thing that bothers me is that SNA presumes that the data link is "reliable" (ie. SDLC, token ring using LLC type 2 operation, and the 370 channel). The "LLC" used with Ethernet is usually type 1 with no link-level acknowledgments, flow control, or error recovery. For SNA to operate over such a "LLC" would require the equivalent of a transport protocol to be used between SNA and the Ethernet link-level. A type 2 "LLC" with reliable characteristics could be used over Ethernet and then SNA run over that. Is this what people are doing or intend to do? (I use "LLC" to represent "an" LLC versus "the" IEEE 802.2 LLC.) Another question is how address resolution is (or will be) accomplished? Send replies to me or to everywhere; it doesn't matter as I read both and will summarize if I get anything worth summarizing. Chris Markle - ACC