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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Software piracy
Message-ID: <32247@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: 5 Jun 89 08:06:29 GMT
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In article <8906032136.AA07484@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-sol!lbotez@nosc.mil writes:
>Network Comment: to #7830 by pnet01!crash!apple.com!dlyons
>Nice try, Dave.

Thank you.

>                 Actually your analogy does have a point... but let's compare
>Apples (heh..) to Apples, and not apples to oranges.

Let's compare criminal acts to criminal acts, not fruit to fruit.  :-)

>                                                      First of all, jewelry is
>something tangible...

But not as useful as software, or as hard to debug.

>                       you can't download a $50,000 bracelet... and all of a
>sudden there are two of them.  Also, I doubt you'll find too many "thieves"
>that steal jewelry for sport.

Are you a Pink Panther fan, by any chance?

>                                 To be fair, you should compare software
>pirating to something like video pirating; which is much more similar.

Comparing such similar things would be boring.  My analogy works well enough
for my purposes.  Nobody has the legal right to selectively break laws.  If
you don't agree that copyrights are legitimately useful things that should be
obeyed, work to get laws changed.

>Now tell me, Dave...  can you actually DENY never having had a piece of
>pirated software in your possession?

This isn't terribly relavent to the discussion, but I have never claimed
sainthood.  I have a good but not perfect history.  I don't think it's okay
to violate copyrights.  And I hardly ever misspell "copyright" as "copywrite."

>One thing that's interesting is that often the latest versions of software
>show up on the pirate boards months before you can actually purchase it.  I'm
>still waiting for "Hyperstudio" (which I ordered from Tech Alliance a while
>back); it's been out for over a month through the illegal channels...

That's interesting.  Roger had stacks and stacks of them at AppleFest Boston.
It sold pretty well.  If you got your copy illegally, it is probably
considerably buggier than the current version.

>Lynda

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