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From: ggray@wpi.wpi.edu (Gary Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Stuff..
Message-ID: <2676@wpi.wpi.edu>
Date: 11 Jun 89 12:55:07 GMT
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Reply-To: ggray@wpi.wpi.edu (Gary Gray)
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In article <8906100948.AA17131@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-sat!pro-cyon!pro-palace!r.a.a.@nosc.mil writes:
>Does anyone have any recommendations on good books dealing with Apple //e 8
>bit assembly language?
>

Well, it depends on what you mean... do you want a tutorial?  A reference
manual?

If you want a tutorial, you may want to get _Assembly Lines: The Book_,
originally published by Softalk books (a moment of respectful silence, please)
But now out from Roger Wagner Publishing inc.  This is the book I learned
assembly from, it is clear and has many, many examples.  I haven't seen the
edition from R.W. Publishing, but my version spends 2 chapters dealing with
Dos 3.3 disk i/o, which is a bit less than useless, since any sane person uses
Prodos now.   Cost: $19.95

I also have Rodnay Zaks _Programming the Apple II in Assembly Language_ from
Sybex.  Zaks talks about the basics, as well as data structures (quit a lot,
actually) and scratches the surface on things like graphics programming,
Prodos MLI, mouse programming, etc. I don't know how easy this is to learn
from, but it really isn't broken down into "lessons" like _Assembly Lines_ is,
but then again, it may be more up to date than assembly lines.

If you want a reference book, I suggest starting out with Gary B. Little's 
_Inside the Apple_ series.  I have the //c book, and for a long time it was my
only reference on my computer.  However, once you REALLY get into programming,
you need to have the official technical manual for your machine published by
Addison Wesley.  I have the //c and the Prodos 8 manual, and, for me at least,
they are not so outrageously priced considering the amount of data you get...

Anybody remember the "good ol days" when apple gave you all of the technical
manuals you needed (including schematics) _with_ the computer?