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From: Geoffrey.Welsh@p0.f171.n221.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Geoffrey Welsh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Missed posting?
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Date: 9 Jun 89 17:36:28 GMT
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   While leafing through the comp.sys.cbm archives on Canada Remote Systems, I 
discovered a posting that I have not seen here. Since I know that CRS' Usenet 
software is still fairly new and might not have been operating perfectly, I 
figured that the posting probably never got out at all. Please ignore this 
(and forgive me) if you've all seen this before!
 
   I wanted to re-post this for several reasons, a (fleeting) desire for 
"fairness" among them. It relates to conversations between Joe Greco and 
myself panning Steve Punter and Workable Concepts; it should be noted that 
both Steve and WC's front-man, Jeff Goebel, can read all comp.sys.cbm postings 
on CRS (the archives there go back a couple of months), but we may not be able 
to see all of their postings. If requested to do so, I will pass messages to 
these people or bring their attention to specific posting(s).
 
   Enough administrivia, here is the message:
 
Date: 05-23-89 (19:54)        U-CBM Number: 490 (Echo)
  To: jgreco@csd4.milw.wisc.edu     Refer#: 473
From: JEFF GOEBEL                     Read: NO
Subj: BBS64 SUPPORT.
 
Hello Joe.
 
You are not alone in thinking that Steve was not a great support person,
although I often here users who think he was GREAT at support too.  What
Steve didn't do was adapt to other people's ideas.
 
If it were up to Steve, he'd probably still be writing BBS64 mods... but
times change, and as 64 hardware (IEEE specific) became harder to
maintain, people wanted a cheaper PC version.  (Ironic eh?  PC -
cheaper?)
 
In any case, I am happy to be part of (note[  PART OF) the company
supporting the PC-PunterNet, which retains full support of the 64 nodes.
 
I notice in some of your messages that you're no longer a Punter
software fan, and I can accept that - but I also noticed a knock at
Workable Concepts - or me personally, which aided Geoffry Welsh in an
unsolicited attack/comparison for his DESTERM gain.
 
For a news network such as this, where advertising isn't supposed to be
allowed, I sure see a lot of "subtle" promotion and attack.  Today is my
first exposure to the network, and I see now I have to take a look every
now and then just to see what people are saying about me.
 
It's not paranoia - It's business.  I am not Workable Concepts... I'm
just the guy on the boards.  Instead of saying what you don't like, tell
"ME" what's wrong... Maybe we can work together to be better at support
than Steve was.  I'm not expecting to win you back... but I'D rather not
have you working against me.
 
Jeff Goebel
per: Workable Concepts.
 
- You can't please everybody, and trying displeases more.



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