Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!netnews.upenn.edu!eecae!cps3xx!rang From: rang@cpsin3.cps.msu.edu (Anton Rang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Apple's Horrible Product Quality Message-ID: <3260@cps3xx.UUCP> Date: 3 Jun 89 05:14:02 GMT References: <13743@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> <9169@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Sender: usenet@cps3xx.UUCP Reply-To: rang@cpswh.cps.msu.edu (Anton Rang) Organization: Michigan State University, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 29 In-reply-to: fozzard@boulder.Colorado.EDU's message of 2 Jun 89 20:32:22 GMT I've owned Apple equipment for years without experiencing any major problems. My Mac 512KE drive did start having problems once; after alignment didn't help, and Apple's test programs didn't show anything wrong, I convinced a friendly dealer to put a new one in for labor cost plus $20 (he figured the rest of the drive cost was covered by the trade-in of my old drive, which he sent back to Apple, for them to figure out the problems). My Apple ][+ has been working reliably for...must be 7 years or so now, I think. My 512K (and then 512KE) has worked fine, except for the disk drive problem (and recently a power supply problem) for 3 years (or so). My SE is working but I've only had it a month :-). About the Mac software problems...I generally find my Mac more reliable than any other computer system I use except for a VMS machine. It hangs up (for me) much less than the Sun systems which I manage, and rarely crashes unless I'm making stupid errors (usually if I'm programming during the day, when I'm asleep, instead of at night :-). An IBM PC which I also work on tends to lock up more-or-less at random; it happens when running most software, and most of the IBM PC's (XT's, AT's, ...) I've worked on exhibit the same problems (surprisingly, the clones seem more reliable in this regard). I don't think the Mac has any more software problems than any other personal computer. Not that Apple can't improve it; memory protectiion would be a great first step, and not too hard to implement on a machine with a PMMU.... +---------------------------+------------------------+ | Anton Rang (grad student) | "VMS Forever!" | | Michigan State University | rang@cpswh.cps.msu.edu | +---------------------------+------------------------+