Xref: utzoo comp.unix.aux:1018 comp.unix.questions:14209 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cmcl2!vx2!vx2.gba.nyu.edu From: spector@vx2.gba.nyu.edu (Alexis Rosen) Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Academic workstations -- Followups to comp.unix.questions ONLY Summary: Barry's estimate of 20Kb/Sec. is ridiculous. Message-ID: <486@vx2.GBA.NYU.EDU> Date: 11 Jun 89 18:18:54 GMT Sender: spector@vx2.GBA.NYU.EDU Followup-To: comp.unix.aux Distribution: usa Lines: 33 Barry Shein posted a message proclaiming the virtues of network servers. I don't have anything to say pro or con for this position- I'll leave that to those better qualified. He also stated that the Mac has very slow disk channel speed, and quoted an average time for small disks of 20KB/sec. This number is ridiculous. Even the Mac Plus can do better than that. You'll see about 50KB/sec. with cheap 20-30MB disks. You can do quite a bit better with the faster ones. But this article wasn't discussing Mac Pluses, but rather Mac IIs. And the difference between the two is vast. I have attached to my machine three disks: and old Quantum Q280, a Wren III half-height (90MB), and a Wren Runner full-height (320MB). The old Quantum, which has a lousy controller, does about 5Mbit/sec., or abuot 625KB/sec. - roughly 31 times faster than Barry's estimate. The Wrens are much faster. The (also old) Wren III does better than 1MByte/sec., and the Runner (which is the fastest disk 5.25" disk I know of) consistantly does better than 1.5MBytes/sec, more than 75 times faster than Barry's claim. For all this, I won't say the Mac has a particularly fast disk channel. It doesn't, and it has no provision for DMA. Fortunately, this will be corrected this summer. Apple will likely be introducing a macine with a faster DMA SCSI controller. Even if it doesn't, though, for $600 you'll be able to buy a synchronous SCSI DMA board that should drive disks like the Wrens at about 4MB/sec. (burst, of course, since disks can't suck up information that quickly off their platters). --- Alexis Rosen spector@vx2.gba.nyu.edu (temporary guest account) alexis@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (last resort)