Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ukma!uflorida!haven!adm!xadmx!bzs@bu-cs.bu.edu From: bzs@bu-cs.bu.edu (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: GNU, security, and RMS Message-ID: <19930@adm.BRL.MIL> Date: 7 Jun 89 23:28:22 GMT Sender: news@adm.BRL.MIL Lines: 29 Gee, I feel a little like everyone was just looking for someone to jump all over about the security issue and I stepped right in it. Remember, I didn't say the 11 Million PC users were right, I just said that you can't deny their existence (in response to a claim that no one would buy a system without security, hah!) The problem is that everyone is naming their favorite "possibly related to security" issue and offering it as proof that they need some other vague thing they're referring to as security. Will someone explain to me exactly how usernames and passwords and file protections (a not unknown form of security) will protect against computer viruses?? These are often introduced into the system by unwitting bona-fide users, hiding in a useful looking program picked up somewhere. The point is: Define security. It's going to have to be a little more concise than "something which prevents anything evil from ever happening to my computer". That's where the confusion lies, let's hear your security model, not just a description of where it hurts. -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die, Purveyors to the Trade 1330 Beacon Street, Brookline, MA 02146, (617) 739-0202