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From: don@BRILLIG.UMD.EDU (Don Hopkins)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Open Look
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Date: 11 Jun 89 02:32:36 GMT
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   Date: 10 Jun 89 18:18:07 GMT
   From: vsedev!logan@uunet.uu.net  (James Logan III)

   Can anyone tell me whether or not Sun uses Open look on any of their
   products?  I read something about them having a deal with AT&T at one
   point, and I'd like to know if Open Look will eventually replace
   SunView or News.  Anybody know?

			   -Jim
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   Jim Logan                           logan@vsedev.vse.com
   VSE Software Development Lab        uucp:  ..!uunet!vsedev!logan
   (703) 329-4654                      inet: logan%vsedev.vse.com@uunet.uu.net

Yes, Sun is supporting OPEN LOOK, and they are using it in their
products.  OPEN LOOK is a user interface specification, not a window
system, so it could not "replace" NeWS.  The SunView window system is
being replaced by Open Windows, (aka X11/NeWS). Old SunView1 programs
will still run on top of X11/NeWS, though. At least two
*implementations* of OPEN LOOK run on top of X11/NeWS: XView, which
has a SunView compatible interface (from the programmer's point of
view, not the user's), and runs on top of X11; and tNt (the NeWS
toolkit), which is written in object oriented PostScript, and runs in
NeWS, on top of the NDE toolkit kit. Open Windows includes both XView
and tNt, and it will be part of the standard System V.4 distribution
from AT&T (and Sun). To top it off, AT&T's X-Toolkit based OPEN LOOK
implementation runs on top of X11 (therefor X11/NeWS).

There are several different implementations of OPEN LOOK, and you can
choose which one to use depending on your needs. You are not forced to
use NeWS, or XView, or the X toolkit, in order to have an OPEN LOOK
user interface.  If you want to write your own implementation of OPEN
LOOK on top of your favorite toolkit or window system, you can, and
you won't even get sued! That's the whole point of OPEN LOOK, as
opposed to, say, the look and feel of the Apple Macintosh.

	-Don