Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!bellcore!texbell!uhnix1!sugar!ficc!peter From: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Toolkits & User Interface Deevolution Message-ID: <4507@ficc.uu.net> Date: 12 Jun 89 13:47:06 GMT References: <2904@portia.Stanford.EDU> Organization: Xenix Support Lines: 18 Interface builders are nice, but they really don't solve the basic problem... which is a standard programmer interface to windowing. Even with the best IB in the world, you still have to write code to actually talk to the screen. It seems to me that windowing systems are where Basic was in the early seventies, with a dozen mutually incompatible dialects... none of them particularly nice. You all know what's happened there. The standard for Basic is now Microsoft's rather poor design (even for a Basic). Yes, I realise that using Basic as an analogy is not calculated to please, but I really don't think any of the programmer interfaces to windows are any better designed. Basic has a poor programming paradigm, but pretty much all windowing systems are no better as graphics programming paradigms. -- Peter da Silva, Xenix Support, Ferranti International Controls Corporation. Business: uunet.uu.net!ficc!peter, peter@ficc.uu.net, +1 713 274 5180. Personal: ...!texbell!sugar!peter, peter@sugar.hackercorp.com.