Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!uunet!bu-cs!bloom-beacon!think!think.com From: rlk@think.com (Robert Krawitz) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs Subject: cl (was: Re: save-match-data (was: Re: mail beep (take 3))) Message-ID: <21600@news.Think.COM> Date: 3 Jun 89 20:31:37 GMT References: <40158@bbn.COM> <40865@bbn.COM> <549@talos.UUCP> Sender: news@Think.COM Reply-To: rlk@think.com (Robert Krawitz) Organization: Thinking Machines Corp., Cambridge MA Lines: 15 In-reply-to: kjones@talos.UUCP (Kyle Jones) The TMC emacs package requires cl to be loaded (we build it into emacs locally, in fact), and uses it extensively. I find programming in emacs lisp to be very inconvenient without having cl loaded. If nothing else, it standardizes idioms that are very useful (such as ca*r) and provides a lot of very useful utilities that otherwise have to be written many times. I realize that emacs is a rather large program, and adding another 70K or whatever to it exacerbates all the problems it has when running on a small machine. Nevertheless, we find the benefits of having cl preloaded substantially outweigh the disadvantages. -- ames >>>>>>>>> | Robert Krawitz 245 First St. bloom-beacon > |think!rlk Cambridge, MA 02142 harvard >>>>>> . Thinking Machines Corp. (617)876-1111