Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!lll-winken!vette!brooks From: brooks@vette.llnl.gov (Eugene Brooks) Newsgroups: gnu.gcc Subject: Re: Some people won't use GCC for imaginary reasons. Message-ID: <26549@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Date: 7 Jun 89 15:49:20 GMT References: <8906052346.AA00997@sugar-bombs.ai.mit.edu> <1108@mcmi.UUCP> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Reply-To: brooks@maddog.llnl.gov (Eugene Brooks) Distribution: gnu Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Lines: 38 I don't want any hate mail from the GNU staffers for this, I thought I would answer this question as it covers an interesting point in copyright law. I support the GNU effort with my time now and then and would certainly send a check to FSF if they needed to defend their copyleft. In article <1108@mcmi.UUCP> denny@mcmi.UUCP (Denny Page) writes: >rms@AI.MIT.EDU writes: >>The other GNU libraries are copylefted, and as a result, you can't >>distribute an executable linked with them unless you are also >>willing to distribute the rest of that program under the copyleft. > >Ok, now I have a question. What would be the attitude toward a developer >who distributes .o files containing proprietary code, source to the GNU >libraries in question, and leaves the end user to compile and link them >together on his own? This is the one certified way of beating the copyleft, which RMS does not like to advertize. It even has the feature that the copyleft prevents the end user from redistributing the resulting binary because he does not have part of the source. Its an interesting turnabout, the copyleft is protecting the resulting proprietary program. Now, you might think that FSF would never sue an end user under these conditions. No one would think that FSF would sue an end user for distributing proprietary code freely. However, an interesting feature of the copyright law is that if you don't defend your copyright you lose it. If you allow someone to freely distribute your goods in violation of the copyright (as in the case of the end user noted above), and then a company distributes the goods in violation of the copyright in "software hoarding mode", FSF will not successfully defend the copyleft in court against the second party unless they defended it against the first. This means, in effect, that FSF MUST defend your proprietary source from redistribution if it is to keep its copyleft in force! brooks@maddog.llnl.gov, brooks@maddog.uucp