Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-winken!uunet!bfmny0!tneff From: tneff@bfmny0.UUCP (Tom Neff) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin Subject: Re: Stuck with .UUCP forever? Message-ID: <14379@bfmny0.UUCP> Date: 5 Jun 89 04:17:29 GMT References: <444@logicon.arpa> <56904@uunet.UU.NET> Reply-To: tneff@bfmny0.UUCP (Tom Neff) Organization: ^ Lines: 35 In article <56904@uunet.UU.NET> rick@uunet.UU.NET (Rick Adams) writes: >The trick is finding someone stupid enough to be willing to be the >uucp forwarder for 15,000 uucp hosts. > >The fundamental problem is not registering a domain name, but setting >up the appropriate forwarders. Is there no way under the current/proposed scheme to share the forwarding work load in an organized way? The problem as I see it from reading the RFC's and following the discussion here, is that if you treat UUCP as a full fledged domain then the temptation will be too great to dump everything destined for any UUCP site onto some unlucky overworked VAX somewhere and thus bottleneck the net to death while driving the admins to the poorhouse. Now unless I have this completely wrong, if I am sending to an address that lies in a domain of which I am also a member (say xyz.FOO.NET wants to send to bfmny0.UU.NET) then I am at liberty to try and parse the address (up to some limit, I scratch my head on this) within that known domain so as to optimize delivery. Whereas if it's a domain I'm not in, I should just send to the forwarder and let him deal with it. Now this is happening today by and large, for foreign nets am I right? If someone on MILNET wants to send me mail he has to go through the One True Gateway who does the forwarding... so gatewaying UUCP to Whatevernet is already relying on someone "stupid enough." However most UUCP mail incoming and outgoing (as of now) does have a UUCP site at the other end of the delivery path. So processing addresses *within* the domain could work as it does now with programs like smail. I'm sure I've overlooked something - my mailbox is open. :-) -- Tom Neff UUCP: ...!uunet!bfmny0!tneff "Truisms aren't everything." Internet: tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET