Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:6420 sci.physics:8410 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!bloom-beacon!think!eplunix!raoul From: raoul@eplunix.UUCP (Otero) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.physics Subject: Re: HV Cap Fun! Keywords: capacitor,energy,paradox Message-ID: <747@eplunix.UUCP> Date: 2 Jun 89 01:29:59 GMT References: <4924@m2c.M2C.ORG> <3806@mit-amt> <20772@quacky.mips.COM> <8742@fluke.COM> Organization: Eaton-Peabody Lab, Boston, MA Lines: 42 In article <8742@fluke.COM>, strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong) writes: > In article <8739@fluke.COM> strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong) writes: > }In article <20772@quacky.mips.COM> vaso@mips.COM (Vaso Bovan) writes: > }}A Paradox of Capacitor Energy Storage > }} > }}Consider an ideal 2uF (for computational ease) capacitor charged by a 10 volt > }}source. Eventually, the energy stored is (1/2)*CV^2=100 joules. > }}Consider the capacitor to be isolated from the voltage source, and then > }}directly shorted across an identical (ideal) capacitor. Eventually, the > }}voltage across each capacitor will be 5V. Now, there are two equally > }}charged capacitors, each storing (1/2)*CV^2= 25 joules, for a total of > }}of 50 joules. What happened to the other 50 joules ? > } > }The extra energy is dissipated in the form of heat when the current flows > }though the series resistance of the capacitor. What about superconducting materials? No resistive heat dissipation at all. No, the gentleman who posted about the inductive effects of the wires connecting the capacitors was much closer. Most real systems will have heat loss as current travels through them, but even perfect conductors have electromagnetic radiative losses: current oscillating through space produces electromagnetic radiation, which can be described as an impedance of the system. If the net impedance of the system is high enough, more it damps the system and heat and radiation take up the energy before anything oscillates. If the impedance is to low, the system oscillates, with current and charge oscillating back and forth between the capacitors. This paradox is almost identical to that of shorting across a charged capacitor. Where does the energy go? This sort of problem is also partly why good capacitors are so much easier to make than good inductors. Capacitors 'only' hold charge, so they don't have to deal with the losses and problems inductors do. Capacitors also pretty much contain their fields between their plates, where inductors' fields project beyond their cores and cause no end of grief.... -- Nico Garcia Engineer, CIRL Mass. Eye and Ear Infirmary eplunix!cirl!raoul@eddie.mit.edu