Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: sun!Central!uokmax!jkmedcal@uunet.UU.NET (Jeff K Medcalf) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: dogfighting Message-ID: <7210@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 7 Jun 89 03:36:26 GMT References: <7022@cbnews.ATT.COM> <7128@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: No, it isn't really. Lines: 25 Approved: military@att.att.com From: Jeff K Medcalf >From: military@att.att.com (Bill Thacker) > >Erich Hartmann avoided them at all costs -- >and it's hard to argue with the top-scoring ace of all time, 352 confirmed >kills (WW2 Eastern front), never even scratched, never lost a wingman. > > Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology > uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu But remember that during WW2, German pilots also counted kills on the ground, rather than solely in the air. And since 90+% of the prewar Soviet Air Force was destroyed on the ground, as were much of the French and Belgian Air Forces, German fighter kills tend to be unrealistic. I think that the top scoring ace of WW2 in air kills only was British, but I don't remember for sure. -- I dream I'm safe jkmedcal@uokmax.UUCP Soft and so nice Jeff Medcalf Soft and so nice It's a wonderful womb <-The Church, "Hotel Womb"