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From: vrdxhq!vrdxhq.verdix.com!bsmart@uunet.UU.NET (Bob Smart)
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Subject: Re: Fire control
Summary: WW II Armor tactics (North Africa)
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Date: 9 Jun 89 03:28:20 GMT
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From: vrdxhq!vrdxhq.verdix.com!bsmart@uunet.UU.NET (Bob Smart)

In article <7208@cbnews.ATT.COM>, allen%codon1.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU writes:
> 
A lot about employment of armor against AT guns, concentrating
on North Africa.

> Ed Allen (allen@enzyme.berkeley.edu)

I always found Brazen Chariots by Robert Crisp to be a good
first hand source on North Africa. Crisp was a tank commander
in a Honey ( M-3 Stuart). The book concentrates on one campaign
I believe Crusader. I often wish He had another book continueing
on to cover the rest of the war ( or maybe he was out of it, I 
can't remember how it closes now.) The book first came out in
the 50's I think. I have the Bantam edition from the late 60's.

Does anyone have good first hand armor books? I have another one
about the Churchill Crocodiles ( Flame throwers) that I can't
remember the name of. I am looking for all periods, all theaters.

Bob Smart (bsmart@verdix.com)


[mod.note: I'll second the nomination for Brazen Chariots, with the
caveat that it's tough to pull much useful gaming info out of it.
It does a great job of portraying the feel of combat, though.

At one point, Crisp mistakes a Crusader for a PzKwIII and opens
fire, putting many rounds into it (and killing the gunner,
as I recall).  The Crusader commander later remarked, "that was
bloody good shooting !"

- Bill ]