Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!daemon From: annmh@blake.acs.washington.edu (Ann Harrington) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: umm...silly question, but... Summary: power, society, equality Message-ID: <11866@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Date: 6 Jun 89 18:01:57 GMT References: <16683@paris.ics.uci.edu> Sender: ambar@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU Reply-To: annmh@blake.acs.washington.edu (Ann Harrington) Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 34 Approved: ambar@bloom-beacon.mit.edu You men, always talking about power and control! :) Frankly, I don't think the point of feminism or discussions about women`s rights is to find a new "ruler" of society. You talk about who will be in/have power as if we're trying to set up a new form of government! As far as I can see, the problems of inequal rights for women in the past have been due to the shape of ALL of society, not just governmental systems, educational systems, parents, men, women, business, etc. Blaming any one of these for inequality is ignoring the complete picture, and trying to "overthrow" any one of these or naming just one as an "oppressor" is likewise narrow-sighted. Over and over it has been shown that placing blame is all well and good for making people feel righteous and just, but it doesn't get any changes made. One of the most frustrating things about maturing as a woman has been discovering *within myself* a lot of old-fashioned, 'helpless', traditionally feminine (i.e. weak, indecisive, helpless, incompetent, even 'man-needing') misconceptions. I find these things in unconscious feelings that I would never believe in conscious thought! So, one thing I have gathered from this, is that in spite of supportive, feminist mothers, and supportive feminist fathers (discussion?), and all those wonderful things that make up a supportive environment, it isn't enough, and the "enemy" isn't entirely an outside force. It is often easier to blame it all on outside forces, "other" groups, but we also have to change ourselves, and that is often harder. So, if you must word things in terms of war, remember that part of the "enemy" is indeed us, ourselves. -Ann ---------- annmh@blake.acs.washington.edu