Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!udel!princeton!phoenix!harnad From: harnad@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Stevan Harnad) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: What is a Symbol System? Summary: Explicit Rules Are Needed for Systematic Interpretability Keywords: computation, symbol manipulation, syntax, formality Message-ID: <12195@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Date: 14 Dec 89 06:51:47 GMT References: <11640@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <17189@netnews.upenn.edu> <21032@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Organization: Princeton University, NJ Lines: 27 anwst@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Anders N. Weinstein) of Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Services wrote: > "Explicit representation of the rules" is a big red herring... > nothing requires a symbol system to be "rule-explicit" (governed by > representations of the rules) rather than merely "rule-implicit" > (operating in accordance with the rules). The important thing is simply > that a symbol system operates by manipulating symbolic representations, > as you've characterized them... if you're clever enough, you can > probably interpret any symbol system either way I'm not convinced. Whether a rule is explicit or implicit is not just a matter of interpretation, because only explicit rules are systematically decomposable. And to sustain a coherent interpretation, this decomposability must systematically mirror every semantic distinction that can be made in interpreting the system. Now it may be that not all features of a symbol system need to be semantically interpretable, but that's a different matter, since semantic interpretability (and its grounding) is what's at issue here. I suspect that the role of such implicit, uninterpretable "rules" would be just implementational. -- Stevan Harnad Department of Psychology Princeton University harnad@confidence.princeton.edu srh@flash.bellcore.com harnad@elbereth.rutgers.edu harnad@pucc.bitnet (609)-921-7771