Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!excelan!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen From: davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Xerox sues Apple! Message-ID: <1920@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> Date: 18 Dec 89 14:45:23 GMT References: <172@comcon.UUCP> <7326@ficc.uu.net> <9320@hoptoad.uucp> Organization: GE Corp R&D Center, Schenectady NY Lines: 40 Reply-exos:@crdgw1:To: davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) In article <9320@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) writes: | Spoken like a true techno-nerd, Peter. I have personally observed | highly intelligent and skilled UNIX programmers who could not remember | from one minute to the next what each button on their three-button | mouse did. No doubt there are a few who have been able to commit it to | memory somewhere in the world, but from what I've seen, they are the | exceptions. I have *never* seen a non-techno-jock user who could keep | the mouse buttons straight. Multi-button mice are brain-damaged. Overload clicks are like overloaded functions; neat concept but hard to grasp. As I watch people use the Mac, unless they use it a lot, like 20 hours per week, they frequently single click, see that it doesn't do what they want, and then double click. Less frequently vice versa. You can design a bad interface with ANY hardware, and certainly that applies to both the single and multi button mouse. The advantage of the three button mouse is that you CAN design a standard unambiguous interface. For example: left button is a selector... marks the start of text regions, selects stuff off a menu, etc. Middle button is an actor, press and hold gives a menu, poke repeats the last action (or appropriate action, such as paste after action cut). The right button is reserved for window manager interface, click near a corner and you size, near an edge and you stretch, on the scroll bar for scroll, on the top for move, on the hot spot for iconize. Since this doesnt require being RIGHT ON an edge to be unambiguois it reducesd the need for pointer accuract and allows very narrow borders. Any consistent interface will be better than confusion, and I don't think that the single button mouse, which substitutes multiclick for button selection, in any way insures good selection of features (not precludes it). Your egregious insults (techno-nerd) emphasizes the paucity of technical merit in your argument. -- bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) "The world is filled with fools. They blindly follow their so-called 'reason' in the face of the church and common sense. Any fool can see that the world is flat!" - anon