Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!asylum.sf.ca.us!karl From: karl@asylum.sf.ca.us (Karl Auerbach) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso Subject: kerberos and the ISO protocol standards Message-ID: <8912150831.AA21377@asylum.sf.ca.us> Date: 15 Dec 89 16:31:53 GMT References: <8912141730.AA06149@rcole.hpl.hp.com> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 22 > I would like to stress that the Kerberos people have a lot of > experience to offer the standards activities. I would also like to > stress that NO ONE should be niave about submitting an existing system > and expecting it to be accepted as a standard without change. It is too bad that the "standards" efforts going on in the communications area are not codifying tried-and-true experience -- which I assert is the proper and correct role of "standards" activity. Instead it seems that the so-called standards groups insist on performing reasearch. What is wrong with "standardizing" Kerberos? A standard only provides a clear statement of the workings and interfaces of a mechanism -- it is not an endorsement that it is the best way to solve a problem. If two people then chose to use it, they then have a common frame of refererence. And they will be able to get on with whatever larger job they have at hand. Again, I believe that the "standards" groups are suffering from a very serious, and very expensive case of "not invented here". --karl--