Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!sun!stpeter!cmcmanis From: cmcmanis@stpeter.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Xerox sues Apple Keywords: Xerox Apple Message-ID: <129465@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 20 Dec 89 02:02:52 GMT References: <196@modcomp.UUCP> <5339@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU> Sender: news@sun.Eng.Sun.COM Reply-To: cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 36 In article <5339@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU> (Donald R Lloyd) writes: > Apple seems to be running into lots of problems these days... Perfect > time for CBM to really push into the various markets Apple is trying to > (or already has :-( ) taken from Ami. Hmmm, well for those of us who watch the markets, and listen to the words of the Stock-Bimbos (aka analysts) it seems that Apple is really taking it on the chin because of two conditions : 1) Their low end (< $2000) is taking it on the chin because they don't have anything except the SE holding them up and it's losing to the PC clones. 2) Their bread and butter is their low end. Now Apple likes to hype the Mac II and its kin, and they are high priced and high margin products. But the danger is and has been that with all that looking into the bright blue sky you tend to no watch where you are stepping and it looks kinda like Apple put their foot into a cow pie. This does give people like Commodore an opportunity to steal some market share from Apple by offering more features for less money and a better system overall. Now that the software base is in the thousands versus the hundreds of packages, they are given a rare gift. Hopefully Copperman will jump in there. Of course Commodore has been hyping the high end as well with the 2500/20 and 2500/30. Let us hope they learn from the problems Apple is in at the moment. I suspect nicely packaged 1000 class machine (the mythical 1500) would do well in this market with it's productivity mode. It will take some effort on Commodore's part though. Send your cards and letters to Harry and Irving. --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "If it didn't have bones in it, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?!"