Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ENH.NIST.GOV!JOHNBARNES From: JOHNBARNES@ENH.NIST.GOV Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Improving this newsgroup Message-ID: <8912210819.AA06510@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 20 Dec 89 20:25:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 49 The Future of INFO-ATARI16: There is a movement afoot (althogh not heavily supported) to set up alternatives to INFO-ATARI16 so that selected users can receive more coherent information, presumably without all of the flames mixed in. I oppose the creation of such a service because it would become too narrowly speciallized. The Atari marketplace is already a lonely place for interested users and I do not see any value in allowing the user community to become even more fragmented. I believe that what we really need is a couple of good writers and editors to take material that is of widespread interest an repackage it into archival publications that wouold have a permanenet home on one of the archive sites. If such archival material were to migrate into the hardcopy Atari press that would be all to the good. I note that many of the questions that are asked here (at considerable expense, I might note) have been answered in the magazines. I personally find the flow of unrelated information that passes across my screen from INFO-ATARI16 to be quite interesting because it raises issues that those of us in the colonial provinces of the Atari world (yes, the USA appears to be a colony of Europe when it comes to matters Atari) tend to miss or to solve in isolation. I would not like to see the newsgroup become the exclusive province of the flamers nor would I like to have to hunt all over to get the really good stuff. I vote for keeping things the away they are but I would plead for people to post information that has more content and to point us toward archival sources of solid technical data. I would be happyu to post some tables of contents for the magazine that I am associated with if anyone is interested. In recent months I personally have done lengthy writeups on the Syquest 44 and hard drive backup technology. I do not wish to upload these here unless someone has an interest or unless some has a home for them on a good archive site ("good" meaning ftp-able, as that is all I understand how to do). It appears that there is a tendency to post the burning question of the moment to the net when a little research in a library would yield a quicker and sounder ouutcome. Magazines like Current Notes and ST Informer, and to some extent z-Mag and ST REports, have solid technical information that is more useful than some of the spur of the moment responses that get passed around here. On the other hand I have found some of the questions raised here a rich source for things to write about in my magaize efforts to help all Atari users.