Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU!GTHEALL From: GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (George A. Theall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec.micro Subject: Rainbow EchoMail Digest Message-ID: <8912160025.AA05251@remote.dccs.upenn.edu> Date: 16 Dec 89 00:23:00 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 353 Rainbow EchoMail Digest Dec 15, 1989 In this issue: SYS$OUTPUT ECHO POLICY GLOBE.EXE RE: HARD DISK CONTROLLERS RE: JOBSDUMP RAINBOW REGIS, RB-BUFFR A NOT ENOUGH !! RE: RAINBOW REGIS, RB-BUF RE: KILL FILES AND DOGS RE: CHIPS - AGAIN RE: RAINBOW FTP SITES LA50 PRINT PROBLEMS WRONG ASSUMPTIONS FUNS WITH NETS Articles posted to either INFO-DEC-MICRO or comp.sys.dec.micro are currently gatewayed automatically to the Rainbow Echo on Fidonet; thus, you do not need to take any special action to respond to articles in these digests. Please send reports of problems or suggestions for improvement of this digest to GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (ARPA Internet). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 12-14-89 (05:59) To: ALL Subject: SYS$OUTPUT ECHO POLICY From: KEVIN BARKES SYS$OUTPUT (129/38) will drop the Rainbow echo on 12/17/89. The recent content of the echo violates my system's rules of participation. I don't permit my users to pollute netland with such drek, and I deeply resent the need to scan through the message base to manually delete offensive entries. My legal counsel has advised me that several messages contained in the Rainbow echo during the past month are potentially actionable, and the last thing I need or desire is to get hauled into court for being an unwitting agent for the spread of libelous statements. I apologize for the inconvenience, and hope that I can resume carrying the echo when the current childishness subsides. Kevin G. Barkes SYSOP SYS$OUTPUT BBS 1:129/38 --- * Origin: SYS$OUTPUT BBS * Library, PA * 412-854-0511 * (Opus 1:129/38) ------------------------------ Date: 12-12-89 (13:15) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: GLOBE.EXE From: AMER NELSON George -- could you please pass along what follows to Rodger Lea at Chorus Systems in St Quentin en Yvelines, France??? One of my favorite utilities that operates under WINDOWS is called GLOBE.EXE. Everything is in French and I don't have any idea who authored the program. When I use the <> pull-down menu and select <> I get an error message which reads <>. Even I can come up with a translation -- function not yet implemented. Could you check into it? The date and time of GLOBE.EXE is 4-10-86, 9:45am. I hope the program has been completed after 3 1/2 years. Of course, I'm not even sure you've seen or used WINDOWS on the Rainbow. ++ Amer++ --- * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3) ------------------------------ Date: 12-12-89 (13:22) To: JIM GREELY Subject: RE: HARD DISK CONTROLLERS From: AMER NELSON Some time back Alan Vymetalic posted a message that indicated that someone had succeeded in hooking up the 159MEG RD-54 to a Rainbow. Said one could get 4 - 32MEG partitions. Any comments or knowledge regarding that possibility??? +Amer+ --- * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3) ------------------------------ Date: 12-13-89 To: CARL HOUSEMAN Subject: RE: JOBSDUMP From: FRANK MALLORY CH> By "stripes" do you mean small white lines between horizontal dot rows CH> due to imperfect paper motion, or actually skipped whole-dot-rows? I don't know which it is, but there are strips of white space about 1/8" wide within the black image. CH> As for interference with TSRs, I find it hard to believe that JOBSDUMP CH> would care about either one of them. However, I don't run HISTORY and CH> don't have any problems, either. Obviously you have to get out of what CH> you're in to run JOBSDUMP, but it can give you a preview, and you can CH> kill it if you don't like it. The interference is definitely there. It doesn't particularly bother me, tho. CH> Actually I thought some of the other suggestions you received for CH> printing out of Rainbow Regis made more sense for your needs. Guess I'd better go back and review them. CH> Speaking which of, Rainbow REGIS won't run with RB-BUFFR installed, so CH> how do you think that RB-BUFFR is interfering with JOBSDUMP? Rainbow ReGIS works with RB-BUFFR as long as you install it first. Evidently you can't install RB-BUFFR and then try to invoke ReGIS; if you do, you get the message "Rainbow ReGIS already installed", even tho it isn't. --- msged 1.99L MSC * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (1:109/123) ------------------------------ Date: 12-13-89 (23:43) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: RAINBOW REGIS, RB-BUFFR A From: CARL HOUSEMAN Let me get this straight; is this what you've done?: 1. you invoke RB-REGIS which gets you the $ prompt in graphcs mode 2. you install RB-BUFFR 3. after getting an image on the screen, you exit REGIS & invoke JOBSDUMP? Know what little I do about REGIS this sounds like a recipe for disaster. REGIS is definitly NOT friendly to other software that wants the keyboard interrupt. I'd leave out RB-BUFFR and perhaps HISTORY too. At the very least when you exit REGIS you're probably creating a big hole in memory unless it leaves itself resident. As far as the 1/8" stripes go, I haven't a clue. If there isn't something funny about your printer programming or setup, it could be a side effect of the TSR problems. --- * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/123 ------------------------------ Date: 12-12-89 To: DAVID STRICKLER Subject: NOT ENOUGH !! From: GEOFF REED DS>You refered to a 'kill file'. Does such a thing actualy exist in a DS>exectutable form? If so, please let me know. At this point, I would DS>like to kill all of Mark's msgs on this BBS. He has pissed off DS>enough people (including myself) to warrent such actions. DS> DS>David Strickler DS>Sysop of 101/45 DS>Midnight DEC (Boston) DS>(617)739-0708 [Voice] Mark, there Are at least 2 different ones. I use Pixie on my bbs (send a note to carl reek @ 343/6 to get a copy) and then there is killrdog. I no-longer recieve any messages from mark here in the rainbow echo, they're all sent to the bit-bucket. --- msged 1.998y * Origin: StarShip_Inconnu, Cruisin' the Stars (1:6000/0) ------------------------------ Date: 12-14-89 (07:42) To: CARL HOUSEMAN Subject: RE: RAINBOW REGIS, RB-BUF From: FRANK MALLORY > Let me get this straight; is this what you've done?: > 1. you invoke RB-REGIS which gets you the $ prompt in > graphcs mode > 2. you install RB-BUFFR > 3. after getting an image on the screen, you exit REGIS > & invoke > JOBSDUMP? > That's it, pretty much in a nutshell. I'm using REGIS240, which gives me VT240 terminal ID. I normally invoke ReGIS and RB-BUFFR from within my AUTOEXEC There doesn't seem to be any iterference between them as long as I invoke RB-BUFFR second. HISTORY likes to be invoked last of all, just before exiting AUTOEXEC. I have a RAM drive (a la SETRAM) that is occupying memory as well, and I use COMSPEC to store COMMAND.COM in RAM. FLU-SHOT is also in there. That's all at present; sometimes I bring up SpeedCache, but I have not used it lately because I need the memory for CB/V. After logging onto the VAX via Kermit, I painted a graphics screen using Datatrieve. Then switched back, exited Kermit, and ran JOBSDUMP. I'll try printing again, with all the TSRs disabled. --- * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/123 ------------------------------ Date: 12-14-89 (08:01) To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: RE: KILL FILES AND DOGS From: FRANK MALLORY > (And yes, there are cases where ignorance is bliss!) I've > heard of a > similar capability for reading EchoMail called Kill Dog > (or something Yes, George, there's a program called KILLRDOG that will run on the PC or Rainbow and delete all incoming messages in a specific area that contain designated keywords. I have had occasion to use it in the past and found that it is really a slow process. I believe that the situation will settle down here pretty soon. The problem is exascerbated by the fact that this net is so widespread now (thanks to your efforts, which I applaud) that it takes lightweeks for messages originating here to reach its outmost limits. So we can expect reactions to continue to come in from distant nodes for some time. I'm sure that Mark will recognize that and forebear from responding to messages that concern ancient history, so to speak. So while of course, sysops are free to do whatever they want on their boards, I recommend AGAINST setting up any mechanisms to screen out Mark Bornstein's messages. Mark has made many beneficial contributions here in the past, and I am confident he will continue to do so once the current flap is over. --- * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/123 ------------------------------ Date: 12-14-89 (08:17) To: VAN VANHORN Subject: RE: CHIPS - AGAIN From: FRANK MALLORY > > 19-15123-03 Receiver, Line 26LS323 Sales code 277SY > Unit price $6.00, total with FEDEX and tax for my location > for 6 chips was $44.81. Sounds good, Van. I'm glad you could get them through DEC Direct, because the minimum order through Unlisted Parts is $50. Were you able to use the RB diagnostic or some other program to tell you that this part had failed? --- * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/123 ------------------------------ Date: 12-13-89 To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: RE: RAINBOW FTP SITES From: DAVID DEITCH In a message of , GEORGE THEALL (1:273/203) writes: %I think that is the right address to reach them. There are also msdos files %available from wuarchive.wustl.edu which mirror the msdos archives at %simtel20 on the milnet. wuarchives also have amiga, apple II, atari, and %mac archives from users groups. For you gif fans, they also have a %collection %of gif graphics. You mean my alma matter actually got it working? When I was there only last year they could not even get usenet to the engineering school undergraduates. I am impressed. Yours in FidoNet, David Deitch (GIS) 1:133/411 --- msged 1.999 * Origin: Galaxy Information Services (GIS) (1:133/411) ------------------------------ Date: 12-14-89 To: GEORGE THEALL Subject: LA50 PRINT PROBLEMS From: PAUL OLSON Hi George, My printer had that problem two years ago. I had to have the printer's circuit board replaced. Seems something overheated or simply wore out. The DEC field engineer didn't say which. As Always, Paul --- ConfMail V3.31 * Origin: The Pot of Gold - (703-359-6549) (1:109/103) ------------------------------ Date: 12-14-89 To: MARK BORNSTEIN Subject: WRONG ASSUMPTIONS From: PAUL OLSON Mark, You must keep a file with all your old Email, 'cause I don't even remember your commenting on CP/M (Yes, beloved, but old stuff too. AmigaDOS is where it's at!). I could care less what your opinion is of CP/M. The fact is that I DON'T appreciate having to wade through all your personal attack messages when all I want to do is to catch up on Rbw Echomail. Art McClinton is correct in remembering your attacks on Catt. I remember them too. Gee, Mark, it seems you've used this forum for your personal attack forum before. And more often than anyone else.Enough said. Paul --- ConfMail V3.31 * Origin: The Pot of Gold - (703-359-6549) (1:109/103) ------------------------------ Date: 12-15-89 (19:02) To: FRANK MALLORY Subject: FUNS WITH NETS From: GEORGE THEALL FM>The problem is exascerbated by the fact that this FM>net is so widespread now (thanks to your efforts, which I applaud) that it FM>takes lightweeks for messages originating here to reach its outmost limits. Messages move across the other nets rather quickly, within hours of being posted. Intercontenental links in BITNET, the Internet, and USENET are implemented via high-speed lines with speeds approaching 1.5Mbps. Over BITNET I have often held interactive "conversations" with people in Europe, and response times have generally been quite good. And using the Internet I can log onto machines across the world as well as across town. Of course, all this means little if people check mail/news only once per week. :-) George --- ~ EZ 1.23b4 #263 ~ GTHEALL@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU (ARPA Internet) ------------------------------