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From: t-jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Tony Jacobs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: PC's are democratic; Mac's are fascistic
Message-ID: <1989Dec18.142406.5066@hellgate.utah.edu>
Date: 18 Dec 89 21:24:05 GMT
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In article <1210@serene.UUCP> rfarris@serene.UU.NET (Rick Farris) writes:

>>   It is a fact that the standard interface of windows, pull down menus,
>> make things look good and friendly.
>              ^^^^

>They may make it *look* friendly, but to an experienced user, a @#$%@
>pull down menu'ed interface is anything but friendly.  Why should I
>be saddled with something I don't want?
>
Why are you straddled? There are utilities that will allow you to run
everything with the keyboard if you want, as well as everything from the
mouse as well. It's friendly because I can take a new application that I've
never seen before, never have read the manual, and very quickly I can figure
out how it works because it works very much like every other good Mac program.
>
>The PC world is very democratic.  It allows the *user* to decide
>whether he wants a gui or a text based system.  It allows the user to
>determine what sort of LAN he'd like.  It allows the user to decide
>what sort of display quality he'd like.  Apple does none of the
>above. 
>
NONE OF THE ABOVE? I guess that makes you a democratic grandious generalizer.
The Mac has *LOTS* of choices of LANs connectability.
The Mac has lots of different size/shape/color/resolution displays to choose
from. Does the PC world have 32bit color to choose from? (Just asking)

>In fact, I'll go on record as stating that there is *far more*
>graphics based software avaiable for the PC than there is for Apple.
>There is far more *everything* available for the PC than for Apple.
>
BIG DEAL! You're not saying anything here. There's far more software which
means theres far more junk. Why don't you be so daring as to go on the record
as stating there is far more *High*Quality* graphics software or that the PC
software is of a *Higer*Quality* than the graphics software of the Mac.
I doubt the Desktop Publishing Software is better.
I doubt the Paint type programs are better.
I doubt the Illustration type programs are better.
I doubt the Presentation type programs are better.
I doubt the 3D Rendering type programs are better.
.
.
.
>PC's (of an equivalent vintage) have always had better graphics and
>much quicker operation than Apples.
>
You have any benchmarks to back that up?



Look the truth is that the PC is better in some things, the Mac in others.
Don't insult the intelligence and wast the time of the rest of us by trying
to make all these general sweeping claims. Especially without hardly any
examples or data to back it up.

Tony Jacobs * Center for Engineering Design * U of U * t-jacobs@cs.utah.edu