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From: jcargill@oka.cs.wisc.edu (Jon Cargille)
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Subject: Re: What do I want to see in the Apple of the 90's?
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Date: 17 Dec 89 17:26:22 GMT
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In article <37341@apple.Apple.COM> rewing@Apple.COM (Richard Ewing) writes:
>
>                                                    We all know that
>the NeXT machine is 4-bit mono, not grayscale

Gee, I'm glad we all know that......  
Flame on: 

Mono is black&white which implies 1-bit.  "4-bit mono" is nonsense.
NeXT is 2-bit GREYSCALE which implies 4 (2^2) shades of grey.

Flame off.

In article <37341@apple.Apple.COM> rewing@Apple.COM (Richard Ewing) writes:
>In article <1989Dec17.064813.16650@nueces.cactus.org> chari@nueces.cactus.org (Chris Whatley) writes:
>>
>>I wasn't talking about an optical. I was talkign about a *330* meg
>>SCSI and anyway, the optical is (perceptibly) faster than most Mac
>>drives that cost $1500.00 and give you 256 megs of storage on a $50.00
>>removable disk. Oops. I guess there aren't any. Oh well.
>
>My counterpart who works for NeXT in Atlanta will even say that the
>optical drive is slow; he has to me.

Anyone who says 90 ms seek time isn't slow is lying or brain-dead.

>And if you think you can't get a removable manegto-optical drive
>for the Mac, then you haven't been shopping lately.

Jeez....read what he wrote!!  He wasn't saying that you can't buy the
same technology for a Mac.  Of course you can.  But people who buy
NeXTs are getting one a LOT cheaper.

Last prices I saw for Mac drives were in the $5-6K range.  Of course,
those are double sided drives (600 M), so you could probably get a
single-sided (300M) drive like the NeXT's for half that.  But they're
definitely not cheap.  You could buy a good chunk of a NeXT for what
the drive will cost you...

>Again, i say, MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING HERE!!!  Some
>of these comments made here are downright wrong!  And silly!

I'd like to send that one RIGHT BACK AT YOU, BUCKO!   :)

Sorry for joining in on this one, folks.  I don't see that we're
accomplishing anything here.  How about we redirect this discussion to
alt.religion.computers?  See Followups line.

Jon
jcargill@cs.wisc.edu