Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:40212 comp.sys.mac:44575 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!rewing From: rewing@Apple.COM (Richard Ewing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Xerox sues Apple!!! Message-ID: <37366@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 18 Dec 89 21:11:32 GMT References: <6767@tank.uchicago.edu> <1989Dec17.112127.27333@me.toronto.edu> <14960@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <4574@ur-cc.UUCP> Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA Lines: 73 In article <4574@ur-cc.UUCP> ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold) writes: >In article <14960@boulder.Colorado.EDU> kuo@boulder.Colorado.EDU (KUO ANDY Y) writes: >> It is a fact that NuBus, SCSI, AppleTalk, 68xxx chip is superior than >>EISA/MCA, ESDI, nothing standard or build in, 80xxx(not include 80486). > >You picked the wrong news group to post this (comp.sys.ibm.pc). In who's >book? I think that you will find, oh, just a few people disagree with this >statement. SCSI is as slow as sh*t. The 68xxx is nice, but I'll take a >'386 or '486 any day of the week. My Compaq 386 eats Mac SE/30's for lunch. >Can you say "upgradable?" That's something that you can do with current >80xxx buses. Try doing that to a Mac without having to pay for an entire >new system board. Can you add the latest video technology to a Mac by dropping >a a board? No, you can even open the damn case without a proprietary tool!!! >Can you say "customization?" Something else you can't do with a Mac. That's >why nothing comes standard on 80xxx bus machines. > >I'll die before I use a Mac or any of it's related equipment. It's all junk. > >> But the company that took the *risk* to provide the user *more* than >>the other impundent company is being "punished". What is fairness? >>What is the good judgement? Where are the users? > >What the hell? Apple *STOLE* it's interface from Xerox. That's illegal. >You want fairness? Xerox should bust Apple on it's ass for trying to rip >-- >>>>> Chris Newbold <<<< * "If you fool around with a thing for very long you * >University of Rochester * will screw it up." * All right, that's it. For get what I said about ending the ideological BS. When a PC user says these things, this means *war*. SCSI may not be the fastest thing in world, but I sure like it when its time to add additional hard drives...or scanners...or digitizers... or tape drives...or CD ROMS....or...get the picture? I won't even bother getting into a 68030 vs. 80386 war. Its pointless. Both chips scream. I will say that I can get a 50 MHz accelerator for my Mac II now. Can you say "upgradable"? Apple probably is the most committed company in the industry when it comes to upgrades. Does Compaq really do upgrades on their machines? Outside of the 486 power platform, does IBM really do upgrades. No. Most "upgrades" are left to third parties, usually just fast microprocessor boards, or crude memory boards that offer a bizarre standard known as LIM 4.0. Bank switching...ugh!!! Latest video technology? You call VGA and 8514/A the latest technology???? BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Now that's really good! C'mon now. I can get 24-bit truecolor cards that actually have an Apple defined video standard behind them for under $1000! Get real on this subject. All Mac II cases are very easy to open without sophisticated tools. The Torx-15 screwdriver that you refer to open other Macs is available at many hardware stores...we didn't invent this standard. "Nothing comes standard on a 80xxx box". You get what you pay for. Whew...calming down now...flame off. -- __________________________________________________________________________ |Disclaimer: I run 125 INITs. Nothing I say can be seriously considered. | | | |Internet: REWING@APPLE.COM-----------------------Rick Ewing | |ApplelinkPE & MacNet Soon!------------------Apple Computer, Inc. | |Applelink: EWING--------------------100 Ashford Center North, Suite 100 | |Compu$erve: [76474,1732]--------------------Atlanta, GA 30338 | |GENIE: R.EWING1--------------------------TalkNet: (404) 393-9358 | |USENET: {amdahl,decwrl,sun,unisoft}!apple!rewing | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^