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From: mnkonar@gorby.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Murat N. Konar)
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Subject: Re: Xerox sues Apple!!!
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Date: 19 Dec 89 01:44:01 GMT
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>In article <4574@ur-cc.UUCP> ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris 
>Newbold) writes:
>> What the hell?  Apple *STOLE* it's interface from Xerox.
>
>> That's illegal.
>> You want fairness?  Xerox should bust Apple on it's ass for trying to rip
>> off their work, sell it as their own, and then have the balls to sue
>> someone else over it.


You know you guys, it's not like Apple denies using the work done at Xerox
and other places as the basis of their interface design.  Look at their
interface guidlines book (at the bookstore, you don't have to buy it) and
read the introduction (or preface; I can't remember exactly), and it states
plainly that Apple's desktop interface has its roots in work done at Xerox.
No lie.  Go read the article in Byte magazine where they interview the designers
of the Lisa.  Larry Tesler (now VP of Advanced Technology at Apple, also an
alumnus of Xerox PARC) says that the idea of the desktop metaphor came from
the Xerox STAR.  No kidding.

Other Xerox alumnus now at Apple include (off the top of my head):
Alan Kay - Now an Apple fellow. I believe he was head of the Learning Research 
group at Xerox PARC. That group brought Smalltalk into the world.  He also 
champions his concept of personal computing, the Dynabook.  Johnny come lately's 
will recognize this as Sculley's information navigator.

Ted Kaehler - worked on Hypercard.  I'm sure he has done other things too but
I can't remember.



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Murat N. Konar        Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Camden, MN
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