Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:40253 comp.sys.mac:44614 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!rice!uw-beaver!cornell!biar!trebor From: trebor@biar.UUCP (Robert J Woodhead) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Xerox sues Apple!!! Message-ID: <987@biar.UUCP> Date: 18 Dec 89 14:43:44 GMT References: <6767@tank.uchicago.edu> <1989Dec17.112127.27333@me.toronto.edu> <14960@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <4574@ur-cc.UUCP> Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc Organization: Biar Games, Inc. Lines: 61 ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold) writes: >In article <14960@boulder.Colorado.EDU> kuo@boulder.Colorado.EDU (KUO ANDY Y) writes: >> It is a fact that NuBus, SCSI, AppleTalk, 68xxx chip is superior than >>EISA/MCA, ESDI, nothing standard or build in, 80xxx(not include 80486). >You picked the wrong news group to post this (comp.sys.ibm.pc). In who's >book? I think that you will find, oh, just a few people disagree with this >statement. SCSI is as slow as sh*t. The 68xxx is nice, but I'll take a >'386 or '486 any day of the week. My Compaq 386 eats Mac SE/30's for lunch. >Can you say "upgradable?" That's something that you can do with current >80xxx buses. Try doing that to a Mac without having to pay for an entire >new system board. Can you add the latest video technology to a Mac by dropping >a a board? No, you can even open the damn case without a proprietary tool!!! >Can you say "customization?" Something else you can't do with a Mac. That's >why nothing comes standard on 80xxx bus machines. Talk about rampant misinformation from both sides. Just to let you know, the SE/30 does have an expansion slot; and the whole Mac II family is just chock full of them. SCSI isn't slow as shit. And remember on a Mac you get the networking for the cost of a wire. Your Compaq 386 costs more than a SE/30, and yes, it's faster. Big deal. Speed is important in only a subset of the tasks computers are used for. You and I might need it for compiling or 3D modelling, but Joe-average-user doesn't care if it takes 1 second or 2 to recalculate his spreadsheet; he just wants to be able to use it without spending 5 minutes figuring out each keypress. >I'll die before I use a Mac or any of it's related equipment. It's all junk. We won't weep for you. And please substantiate this slight on Apple Q&A. >What the hell? Apple *STOLE* it's interface from Xerox. That's illegal. Apple took the original ideas of the GUI developed at Xerox and radically improved them, as anyone who has used the Xerox interface and the Mac can tell you. In all honesty, Apple should be paying a license fee, same as the rest. But let's be fair; Apple did more than any other company to popularize and promote GUI's, and Macs are still the easiest to use machine around; check out the statistics on training costs sometime. For all the talk about User Interfaces, Apple was the first company to preach about offering a consistant UI across all programs, and attempt to enforce it. >What about UNIX? The interface is little friendlier than DOS, yet it is one >of the most powerful and widely used operating systems... Saying UNIX is friendlier than DOS is like saying STALIN was nicer than HITLER. The above statement gets my vote for the most unintentionally hilarious statement of the month on USENET. Both of these guys don't know what the hell they are talking about. Lemme set you straight. Some people like Mac's, and some people like PC's. Mac people should use Macs, and PC people should use PCs. And like other religious cults, they should stop proselytizing. We have enough Jihads going on the world already. -- Robert J Woodhead, Biar Games, Inc. !uunet!biar!trebor | trebor@biar.UUCP Announcing TEMPORAL EXPRESS. For only $999,999.95 (per page), your message will be carefully stored, then sent back in time as soon as technologically possible. TEMEX - when it absolutely, postively has to be there yesterday!