Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!sun!concertina!fiddler From: fiddler%concertina@Sun.COM (Steve Hix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Fwd: Xerox - Apple Computer Suit -2- Message-ID: <129486@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 20 Dec 89 19:31:30 GMT References: <21871@usc.edu> Sender: news@sun.Eng.Sun.COM Lines: 33 In article <21871@usc.edu>, papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: > In article <5867@internal.Apple.COM> casseres@apple.com (David Casseres) writes: > >In article <21846@usc.edu> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: > >> How about this one: its is widely known that Steve Jobs *STOLE* a number > >> of Xerox PARC employees to start the Lisa project. > > > >Let me explain to you about America. It's a wonderful country where > >employees are not *OWNED* by companies. > > Your (i.e. Apple) lawyers certainly disagree with you, given the way > they acted with regard to the Apple employees Steve Jobs took with > him at NeXT (and the ones he wanted to take and wasn't allowed to) :-) Jobs did something that's frowned upon in just about any company I've ever heard of. He got the committment of several of the employees in question to go with him and start a new company while he was still an employee of Apple himself. Which is what he got pounded on for doing. Raiding. The employees at Xerox, for the most part, left for Apple when they saw a chance to actually get some of their ideas out in the daylight of the marketplace. There must be great frustration connected with working somewhere where the things you produce never turn in to "real" products. (At least, several I talked to about the matter at the time felt that way.) ------------ "...Then anyone who leaves behind him a written manual, and likewise anyone who receives it, in the belief that such writing will be clear and certain, must be exceedingly simple-minded..." Plato, _Phaedrus_ 275d