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From: dlugose@uncecs.edu (Dan Dlugose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Problem with SE/30
Keywords: Repair SE/30 MAC
Message-ID: <1989Dec14.193038.4082@uncecs.edu>
Date: 14 Dec 89 19:30:38 GMT
References: <1989Dec12.203141.23952@uncecs.edu>
Reply-To: dlugose@ecsvax.uncecs.edu.UUCP (Dan Dlugose)
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
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In article <1989Dec12.203141.23952@uncecs.edu> uncacj@uncecs.edu (Charles G. James Jr.) writes:
>Help!
>	I have a Mac SE/30 with 1M RAM and a 40M internal HardDisk about 30% full. What
>started out as a intermitent error now has become constant. I turn on the
>computer and it will go through the normal startup procedure, I assume. It will
>display the Startupscreen and show an INIT icon. The screen and menus will look
>normal and act normally as long as I do not start anything. I can select and
>deselect the hard disk icon and pull down all of the menus. If I try to do
>anything either by menu or double clicking it will begin with the expanding box
>graphic then the system hangs. Even if I try Shutdown at this point, it will
>hang. If I reset the system same behavior. For a while if I turned the computer
>off and waited a while(1 day) the problem would disappear. Now, no dice. I tried
>to start the computer using a floppy disk based system folder which gave the
>same behavior. If I try to use some of the DA,s same behavior. In each case it

   It certainly seems to be hardware related.  Since everything is ok
up until the operating system starts processing certain kinds of
events, but not others, (can display menus, select icons, but not
handle menu selection), it seems to be something that involves either
code that was in ROM or (less likely) a ROM patch from the System.
   Given that ROM code is loaded at certain locations in RAM, it
is possible, though perhaps less likely, that it is a problem with
some of the RAM.
   I assume you're using System 6.0.4.  There doesn't seem to be 
much to try.  Reset PRAM (parameter RAM) by booting with command and
option keys down.  Or does that only rebuild the desktop?  I can look
it up.  It's probably not worth reinstalling 6.0.4, unless you want
to try everthing.  Never mind.  From what you've said, I assume you
can't launch any application?

Dan Dlugose
UNC ECS