Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!crdgw1!crdgw1.ge.com!barnett From: barnett@crdgw1.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) Newsgroups: comp.windows.news Subject: Re: Is SUN a "PURE PLAYER" in window systems - SunView or OpenWindows??? Message-ID: <4290@crdgw1.crd.ge.com> Date: 18 Dec 89 19:37:12 GMT References: <8912162135.AA03025@iris.rand.org> Sender: news@crdgw1.crd.ge.com Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY Lines: 47 In-reply-to: salzman%iris@RAND.ORG (Isaac) In article <8912162135.AA03025@iris.rand.org>, salzman%iris (Isaac) writes: > How are >they supposed to promote Open Windows by providing new SunView tools??!!!! >someone please explain the rationale behind this >brilliant move. Perhaps they are promoting OpenLook instead of Open Windows. OpenLook has nothing to do with operating systems or toolkits. You can have OpenLook on a PC, Mac, OS/2, Amiga, VMS system. The real goal is to have the same user interface on every computer, not just on Unix workstations running the X window system. Remember the analogy of dashboards - you can get inside any car and drive it away. No so with computers. Also - OpenLook does have some advantages over SunView with respect to user interfaces. I am also sure that a lot of people would love to have the file manager on their workstation and still have all of the advantages of SunView. >i bet if >they gutted the SunView compatibility it's performance would improve >DRAMATICALLY!! It might be true - as a lot of code is in the kernel. Removing 100K from the kernal would give you the equivalent to 1 Meg in user space, since you can page in the code you need. But I don't really understand your comment about "it's performance". what is "it"? The server? The application? The window manager? The real problem is that you may end up using three or more toolkits that are not sharing any code. SunView, XView, tNt, plus the other X toolkits. Each toolkit has it's advantages. But using all three at once does eat up a lot of memory. >most of Sun's SunView tools have XView equivalents. As of today, I doubt this. There are a LOT of SunView programs out there. Catalyst, etc. A year from now you may be right. -- Bruce G. Barnett uunet!crdgw1!barnett