Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!aplcen!samsung!think!ames!ncar!stout.UCAR.EDU!thor From: thor@stout.UCAR.EDU (Rich Neitzel) Newsgroups: comp.windows.news Subject: Re: Is SUN a "PURE PLAYER" in window systems - SunView or OpenWindows??? Message-ID: <5728@ncar.ucar.edu> Date: 19 Dec 89 14:45:55 GMT References: <4290@crdgw1.crd.ge.com> <8912162135.AA03025@iris.rand.org> Sender: news@ncar.ucar.edu Reply-To: thor@thor.UCAR.EDU (Rich Neitzel) Organization: ncar Lines: 69 > > The real goal is to have the same user interface on every computer, > not just on Unix workstations running the X window system. > > Remember the analogy of dashboards - you can get inside any car and > drive it away. No so with computers. > Sigh! I can't stand it any longer. This is a very bad analogy in my opinion. Yes, I can drive any car car intended for the U.S. market, but the level of commonality is no where near the level that as proposed by the "one user interface claim". I own two cars, made the same year by the same firm and here is a partial list of the differences in dashboard layout- 1> One has the dimmer switch on a lever on the steering column, the other has a foot switch. 2> One has the gear selection lever on the steering column, the other is floor mounted. 3> One has only simple idiot lights that turn red to indicate a problem, the other has analog gauges. 4> The fuel level gauges are on opposite sides of the speedometer. 5> One has a true toggle switch for the rear defroster, the other has a momentary button. Further, the toggle swicth lights up whle the defroster is on, the other has no indicator. 6> On one the heater speed controls are aligned horizontally and placed below and to the right of the temperature control. On the other the speed control is vertically aligned and to the left of the temperature control. I could go on with many more examples of how these two vehicles differ in their control interfaces, but I think the point is clear - despite all the overblown hype about consistent user interfaces and the claims that these are common outside of computing, the truth is quite the opposite. In few cases are there universal interfaces for functions that are even moderately complex. Further, it is rare for users to find this a limitation or barrier to their use of the item in question. When was the last time anyone heard a serious complaint that the dashboard of their Escort was not identical in layout and function to the dashboard in their Civic? I suspect that no reading this has any trouble using an elevator, but there are obviously no standards in their control design, not even in which direction the floor numbers soon run - highest at the bottom, lowest, etc. All this talk about commonality of "look & feel" is simply an attempt to evade the real issue in the design of user interfaces - does the interface for THIS application adequate suit the conditions of use, level of user skill and functionality required to perform the job? Common user interfsces simply make the life of developer easier by allowing one to put on any interface, cklaim that this is good because it is "standard" and walk away. No thought or concern about reality required! Don't force interface applications into a bed of Procrustes (sp?)! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Neitzel National Center For Atmospheric Research Box 3000 Boulder, CO 80307-3000 303-497-2057 thor@thor.ucar.edu Torren med sitt skjegg Thor with the beard lokkar borni under sole-vegg calls the children to the sunny wall Gjo'i med sitt shinn Gjo with the pelts jagar borni inn. chases the children in.