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From: mayer@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Niels Mayer)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Motif UI Editor/Text Editor?
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Date: 8 Dec 89 22:59:14 GMT
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In article <8912080101.AA03753@romana.adobe.com> caro@adobe.COM (Perry A. Caro) writes:
>1. User Interface editor/composer.  This is a tool that allows us to
>   create dialog boxes, menus, etc. as quickly and easily as possible.

This may or may not fit your needs -- See the following comp.windows.x
article:
  Subject: Announcing WINTERP (was Re: LISP/X-Windows interfaces (query))
  Summary: A Motif prototyping/development/customizable-delivery environment

Winterp isn't an "editor" but it certainly is a UI "composer" that allows
you to programmatically, incrementally, and interactively build a UI using
the Motif widgets. It has a "builder"-like primitive that allow you to
change the attributes of a widget by pointing, for example, I can change
the color of a widget by giving winterp the command
	(send (get_moused_widget) :set_values
		:xmn_foreground "green"
		:xmn_background "IndianRed")
and clicking on the desired widget. You can interactively set and change
callbacks, event handlers, etc using the same technique.

>   This tool should use the Motif toolkit and be capable of using
>   or generating UIL.

Well, it uses the Motif toolkit. You could probably write winterp-lisp
reader macros to read UIL files (??), and it shouldn't be too hard to
syntax-transform winterp-lisp description files into UIL.  Note that I
haven't actually tried doing any UIL<-->Winterp work because I don't like
UIL.

>  We would prefer, though not require, that the
>  tool run on Ultrix on a DECStation.

WINTERP has been available ouside HP for a few days now; so far people have
been able to bring it up on Sun workstations. Since it runs on Suns and
HP's, I would hope it'll run on DEC machines as well. Please tell me if you
have problems running it on a DEC machine so I can add patches before it
goes out on the X11r4 tape.

>2. A mouse-based text editor suitable for editing C code.  The functionality
>   should be similar to that of the SunView text editor.

X11/Gnuemacs allows you to use the mouse for some text operations. It
provides a wonderful C programming environment. Gnuemacs isn't a menu- or
pushbutton-based editor, so if you are looking for something that a
neophyte can use straight away, gnuemacs isn't for you.

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	    Niels Mayer -- hplabs!mayer -- mayer@hplabs.hp.com
		  Human-Computer Interaction Department
		       Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
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