Path: utzoo!telly!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!rpi.edu!rodney From: rodney@dali.ipl.rpi.edu (Rodney Peck II) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: GNUclear Warfare Message-ID: Date: 15 Dec 89 21:06:45 GMT References: <1989Dec13.213445.13639@world.std.com> <2558@flatline.UUCP> <4639@sugar.hackercorp.com> <25770F75.3EA@rpi.edu> <1913@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> <1989Dec7.075641.13191@news.acc.Virginia.EDU> <4754@sugar.hackercorp.com> <1989Dec14.205859.8587@relay.nswc.na Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Image Processing Lab, Troy NY Lines: 32 In-Reply-To: merlyn@iwarp.intel.com's message of 15 Dec 89 15:02:02 GMT >>>>> On 15 Dec 89 15:02:02 GMT, merlyn@iwarp.intel.com (Randal >>>>> Schwartz) said: Randal> In article <1989Dec14.205859.8587@relay.nswc.navy.mil>, Randal> dsill@ophiuchi (Dave Sill) writes: Dave> In article <1989Dec13.213445.13639@world.std.com>, bzs@world.std.com Dave> (Barry Shein) writes: Barry> Before you laugh consider Apple's claim on their copyright on the Barry> trashcan icon. Dave> Commodore, bit players though they are, have succeeded in freeing the Dave> trashcan icon. The Amiga has used a trashcan icon to graphically Dave> represent file removal since its release approximately 4 years ago, Dave> and Apple has made no effort to defend their so-called copyright. Randal> And the Atari ST is still the same as it ever was, even though Apple Randal> harrassed DRI (makers of GEM, the Atari and IBM "mac-like" interface) Randal> into changing the trash-can into something else (selecting "delete" Randal> from a menu, I think). Not true -- Apple made them butcher the interface to avoid an expensive lawsuit. There is disabled code to do the exploding windows stuff when you open and close icons. The file selector doesn't scroll repeatedly when you click on the scroll arrows. Both of these things were origninally in the Gem code, but they were removed or disabled to make Apple happy. That's the terrible part about what Apple is doing -- it doesn't matter if the law backs them up right now. By the courts being wishy washy and unclear, Apple can threaten smaller companies into agreeing with them since the the suit would be very expensive. -- Rodney