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From: filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us (Bela Lubkin)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: Call for discussion: Amiga hardware group
Message-ID: <111.filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us>
Date: 19 Dec 89 16:58:02 GMT
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In <108.filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us> I (Bela) wrote:
>>   Purpose: discussion about Amiga computer hardware.  Questions about
>>   the purchase of new hardware; problems with existing hardware;
>>   reviews of hardware products; modification and hacks of existing
>>   hardware; design of new hardware.  POTENTIALLY: hardware-specific
>>   programming (or does that belong in .tech; or should it go
>>   unmentioned so as not to encourage it?)

In article <27235.258d60f0@drunivac.uucp> Tom Limoncelli writes:
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^--well, I suggest that programming stay in .tech.

I agree; my brain must have been on sideways when I wrote that.

> [too much crossposting between c.s.a and c.s.a.t]

>Part of the problem is that .tech isn't too descriptive.  The charter 
>wasn't too clear and there was discussion at voting time to call it 
>.programmer or .programming to avoid this problem.  Oh well, what is 
>done is done.

>I would like to see c.s.a.h, but I would also like to see c.s.a.t 
>renamed to c.s.a.programmer.  Since there is no "rename" control 
>message; it would be nice if this vote could be tied to a 
>committment from users to not crossposting.

Check the stats on c.s.a and c.s.a.t: c.s.a, at least, is listed with 5%
crossposting.  Given the relative volume, if all c.s.a crossposts were
with c.s.a.t, c.s.a.t's crossposting percentage would be around 20%; but
not all are.  I don't think I've seen a percentage for c.s.a.t.  So, you
are right, but I'm not sure it's all that bad.  Note that (I think) a
hardware group will help that by providing an unambiguous area for one
of the topics that is often crossposted out of confusion.

In any case, I don't want to make this a general referendum on
restructuring the comp.sys.amiga area.  I >certainly< don't want to make
it a rename referendum -- I want to stay far away from attempting
something that the news software supports so poorly... ;-}

>P.S.  It would be nice if crossposting could be disabled.  That is,
>physically by the software at each site. :-) 

I disagree; sometimes there are very good reasons to crosspost.  If you
disable crossposting, people will post directly to multiple groups,
which is worse.  I don't know about your newsreading software, but mine
(rn) only shows me one copy of a crossposted article.  Yours may not
have that property but some day it could...

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