Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!FSUCS.CS.FSU.EDU!peterson From: peterson@FSUCS.CS.FSU.EDU (Eric J. Peterson) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Call for discussion: Amiga hardware group Message-ID: <8912220445.AA21396@fsucs.cs.fsu.edu> Date: 22 Dec 89 04:45:49 GMT References: <114.filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department Lines: 84 In article <114.filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us> you write: | In article <108.filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us> I (Bela) write: | >both 'art' and 'games' could be subsumed ('recreation' comes close but | >ignores the large percentage of Amiga artists that are doing commercial | >work), that group might also be worth considering. | | In article <565@sagpd1.UUCP> Monty Saine writes: | > How about something like comp.sys.amiga.creative since the Amiga is | > the computer for the creative mind. Anything along this line would | > help CBM's advertising and that helps us all. | | That is a decent name. It does not address games terribly well, but I | can see arguments for and against combining them anyway. Certainly | those who are doing serious art would probably not appreciate being | lumped with the games... | | I continue to believe that splitting off games and art should be done | later, after the effects of splitting off hardware (assuming that | happens) are understood. I see the games as using far less bandwidth than, say, the total combined traffic of graphics, sounds, animation, etc. Granted, games do include these elements. However, the comp.sys.amiga.art group should be for the game designers (in addition to the many other people out there using the Amiga for sound and graphics presentations other than games). Messages posted to it should relate to the actual technicalities of game software; typical messages such as "How do you get the key from the roadie?" or "I can't remember how to rescue the pilot" should be in a separate group. | | [Bela:] | >Given a hardware group, what name is appropriate? There are really only | >two choices here: comp.sys.amiga.hardware or comp.sys.amiga.hw. I could I vote (SMACK! NO VOTING YET! 8-) c.s.a.hardware. No point in abbreviating something that won't get typed in large quantities anyway. And besides, there are other .hardware groups ... may as well be consistent. | [Monty:] | > There is another choice comp.sys.amiga.tech.hardware since hardware | > is really a technical area is it not ??? | | Well, yes and no. "What is the best color printer?" is not a terribly | technical question. | | Someone else asked [is this to be a technical or non-technical hardware | group]. I say: both. It is extremely difficult to separate the | discussion on these lines. "I am designing a 32-bit memory board to | work with my kludged 68030 board and I am having the following problem | with the DTACK line" is a technical subject for just about anyone. YOU | probably think that "Will the HardFrame work with a CDC Wren V 320MB | drive?" is NOT a technical subject, but it certainly is to someone who | is not knowledgable about hardware. So labeling a group ".tech" | doesn't separate things all that well. | | The total traffic of Amiga hardware discussion is low enough (at least | compared to c.s.a itself) that lumping together technical and | non-technical hardware discussion ought to be workable. If not -- and | that will only become apparent after a few weeks or months -- a motion | could be made to create a .tech or .design group specifically | addressing design issues. I agree totally. Couldn't have said it better myself. There was a posting in comp.sys.amiga about also having a .a500 and a .a2000 (and presumably a .a1000 group as well, although the original suggestor seemed to have forgotten about the 1000 owners out there) newsgroup instead of .hardware. The answer to this question is along the same lines as the .tech debate -- where does one draw the line between a 500 question, a 1000 question, and a 2000 question? Granted, "What are the pin outputs on the 1000 serial port?" is a .a1000 question, but "What kind of hard disk should I get?" is of general interest to all Amiga owners (granted, there are machine specifics involved, but any of the three machines should be able to use the same physical drive using a machine-specific controller). | Bela Lubkin * * // filbo@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us CI$: 73047,1112 (slow) | @ * * // belal@sco.com ..ucbvax!ucscc!{gorn!filbo,sco!belal} | R Pentomino * \X/ Filbo @ Pyrzqxgl +408-476-4633 and XBBS +408-476-4945 Eric -- . |~~ Eric J. Peterson ... peterson@{cs,{nu,fsucs}.cs}.fsu.edu _O_] [ V "You cannot really know anything." -- William Payne (wpayne@digi.UUCP) _< >_ "How do you know?" -- Dan'l DanehyOakes (djo@PacBell.COM)