Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!maytag!looking!brad From: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) Newsgroups: news.misc Subject: Re: The Rape of Usenet Keywords: The wholesale capturing of Usenet by GEnie Message-ID: <65745@looking.on.ca> Date: 22 Dec 89 06:57:43 GMT References: <946@crash.cts.com> <1989Dec21.000041.6034@ns.network.com> <1989Dec21.020140.24067@athena.mit.edu> <6577@brspyr1.BRS.Com> Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd. Lines: 39 Class: rebuttal I'm a GEnie sysop, and let me tell you folks, that while there are some fine folks on GEnie, you people begging for a two way link better not beg too hard or you will get what you ask for. GEnie works differently. It comes from the BBS world, not the USENET world. E-mail is foreign to most users. I send users E-mail rather than reply on the round table, and they complain to me! Other SYSOPS and GEnie staff get ticked when I send them mail in response to their BB postings, rather than posting to the BB. A common posting to a Genie BB might look like this, mapped to USENET: (This is a real one I justed pulled) From: DELETED@genie.com Newsgroups: genie.sysop.info Subject: The Black Hole Mailbox... Message-ID: <1:1:109:sysop@l> Date: 6 Dec 89 22:30:00 GMT Lines: 2 Genie: 1 1 109 Not in the form you want, Juan. The PHONES page is by state. Drop an EMail to (user) and cc: (user2) People constantly post personal messages, one line comments without referents, etc. It's ok if you're reading in with their software, where each topic is in a single file, and you usually just saw the referent. This is what you're begging to have gatewayed? I do a 2-way gateway to GEnie, but it's moderated. If I see a good posting in the unmoderated part of the TeleJoke Round Table (RHF) then it goes to the RHF queue, for posting both to USENET and GEnie. For now, particularly since you can't send E-mail back, be careful what you stomp up and down for. -- Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473