Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uunet!intercon!ooblick From: ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: INDOOR: Biting Conure Message-ID: <1642@intercon.com> Date: 19 Dec 89 17:44:57 GMT References: <3343@cbnewsl.ATT.COM> <12254@cbnewsd.ATT.COM> Reply-To: ooblick@intercon.UUCP (Mikki Barry) Distribution: usa Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation Lines: 40 In this month's issue of Bird World, there is an article by Chris Davis, a highly qualified and respected bird behaviorist, dealing with training pet birds. Her method of choice seems to be bringing the hand with the bird on it down sharply to knock the bird off balance. They seem to hate this. Another method she uses is immediately after the bird displays an unacceptable behavior, return it to its cage and cover it for exactly ten minutes, during which time you do not talk to the bird and have no other contact with it. She does not address the "water method" although I have used it and it has been highly successful for me. None of the birds I have sprayed have then disliked bathing. The key is to set the squirt bottle on stream when it is a punishment, and spray when you are misting the bird for a bath. However, she does specifically address physical punishment and condemns it in all circumstances. Mostly because a bird is not an animal like a dog or cat and does not understand being struck. It will teach him only fear, not specific corrective behavior. The combination of taking the bird off balance when on your hand, and spraying when the bird is doing something wrong when he isn't on your hand has helped me tame many wild caught imports and helped me discipline many naughty little domestics who are going through the "terrible twos". You may find that many domestic babies go through a testing phase, much like a human child. They will keep pushing until they get a response from you. It is a means of the bird trying to determine its boundaries of acceptable behavior. The key to overcoming this seemingly awful period is being totally predictable and non-arbitrary in your praises and punishments. EVERY time the bird displays unacceptable behavior (i.e. biting, chewing on electrical cords, eating your shoes, etc.) you have to react in a similar manner. The bird has to know that this behavior is never acceptable. If you choose to put the bird back in his cage. Make sure he is inside and covered for the full 10 minute period. More and he will fall asleep, negating the "lesson". Less and he won't feel deprived of anything and the punishment won't work. And don't let his screaming and yelling make you feel guilty enough to take him out. From what I hear, Nandays are among the most stubborn of birds. It may take lots of time, but don't give up. Mikki Barry