Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uflorida!mephisto!mcnc!thorin!cezanne!leech From: leech@cezanne.cs.unc.edu (Jonathan Leech) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Are We Exploring Space? (was Re: Fourth Shuttle?) Message-ID: <11154@thorin.cs.unc.edu> Date: 13 Dec 89 20:52:24 GMT References: <6795@shlump.nac.dec.com> <1989Dec12.022557.6690@utzoo.uucp> <14990@bfmny0.UU.NET> <1989Dec13.044849.12140@utzoo.uucp> <14994@bfmny0.UU.NET> Sender: news@thorin.cs.unc.edu Reply-To: leech@cezanne.cs.unc.edu (Jonathan Leech) Organization: University Of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Lines: 34 Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Keywords: In article <14994@bfmny0.UU.NET> tneff@bfmny0.UU.NET (Tom Neff) writes: >enthusiasts embrace it. Bootprints are a prestige frill, good for >melodrama and TV specials, but a suited human is a poor data gatherer, >and the billion-dollar labyrinth of supporting technology it takes to >get him there is an astonishingly inefficient investment for the data >returned. Someday I'd like to see some economic analysis backing up this frequently made assertion. It may be true for a subset of interesting missions and means, but I don't think it's valid to generalize as above. Marginal mission cost/#scientific papers from the Apollo and Luna programs would be an interesting number, for example. I suspect Harrison Schmidt was a better data gatherer than Luna 16 by any criteria. And there's clearly some desire to have humans operate their own experiments in LEO, witness Spacelab. >Everyone seems to want to kick Moondust around, but I notice very few >proposals to send human crews on a Solar Polar mission or out to explore >the heliopause! Robots are better suited to remote sensing missions than in situ exploration, so I don't find this especially surprising. But even for these types of missions, there are many times when having humans available would be useful - diagnosing the Voyager scan platform without lightlag delays cutting into the Saturn encounter data, then fixing it; reorienting the Phobos probe after losing Earth lock; quicker response to targets of opportunity all come to mind. Then there are all those remote sensing experiments conducted from Skylab, Shuttle, and Mir. Sending up the oceanographer (oops, forgot his name, Jean something) is one of the better examples. -- Jon Leech (leech@cs.unc.edu) __@/ ``Those what cannot remedy the past can pretend to repeal it." - Attributed to Santa Ana by Howland Owl