Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jrossi@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (The Electric Sol) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Why Does God hate Me? Message-ID: Date: 15 Dec 89 06:44:47 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Lines: 33 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article crowe@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Daniel Crowe) writes: > >It is incomprehesible to me, also, that God would torment unrepentant >sinners forever in the sense that forever for the unrepentant sinners >equals forever for the saved. The solution lies in the understanding >of "forver". > >I am an annihilationist, which means that I believe that Hell/Hades/the >lake of fire will cease to exist after a finite amount of time by which >time all sin and unrepentant sinners will have been annihilated. The >argument that the Bible claims that Hell will exist for an infinite >of time can be refuted by a word/concept study of "forever". I, too, am comfortable with this. Interestingly, if God is anything like the angry, wrathful, jealous Jehova of the O.T., I might be inclined to forfeit eternal life with Him for the perfect peace of eternal annihalation. Now if he's like Jesus, and given to good food, a good glass of wine, music, and lounging about in gardens, and in the mountains, I might be more interested. :-) >[Jesus most commonly uses pretty generic wording, referring simply to >Gehenna. However Mat 25:41,46 refers to eternal fire, and as does Mk >9:47-48 (in different terms), Rev 20, and 2 Thes 1:9. Rev 14:11 seems >the clearest: "and the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and >ever; and they have no rest". On the other hand, Lk 20:27-40 seems to >support the concept that only the saved are resurrected. I think in You mean you have to be resurrected in order to go to hell? -jrossi@jato.jpl.nasa.gov "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils -ames!elroy!jato!jrossi is still choosing evil." -Cptn. Trips **********************STANDARD DISCLAIMER******************************